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I find it amazing, there is so much misinformation doing the rounds in this case that the Anthony clan make Pravda at the height of the cold war look like serious journalists! A clear target of the defense team is one time Casey Anthony boyfriend Jessie Grund. Jessie makes for a very poor target, he was one of the very few people involved that actually cared about Caylee Anthony. In fact sources tell me that his affection for Caylee was a source of friction between him and mother Casey Anthony.
A document came my way a couple of hours ago that I find very curious. It contains some email traffic between Cindy Anthony and private investigator Dominic Casey. It leads me to believe that there may be yet another angle that JoseBozo Baez and his seven dwarfs may go after. If they can not pin it on Jessie, they may try his father Richard Grund. This is the most ludicrous scenario I have heard yet.
A couple of days ago I heard on the grapevine that a story was circulating that Richard Grund killed Caylee in an occult ritual. In my opinion it is much more likely that Casey Anthony did it in a Duct Tape ritual!
Some research has revealed the source of this rubbish, and it is none other than from PI Dominic Casey. A man who has the credibility of a three day old donut.
Here is a taste of the exchange, this is Cindy to Dominic talking about Richard Grund:
Dominic’s response is equally inane:
I have spoken to Richard Grund on various occasions, he is clearly a man of honor. These allegations are so outrageous that I do hope Richard pursues some recourse from both the Anthony’s and Dominic Casey. OH, and it was Dominic Casey that compiled that hugely amusing list of guests that were not welcome at the Anthony memorial service. If you missed this classic piece of stupidity please read Jan’s article here.
I have the document, and I know the hands it has passed through, I am however not sure that it is in the public domain, so for the time being I think it is better not to publish it.
Simon Barretthttp://www.bloggernews.net/122445
A document came my way a couple of hours ago that I find very curious. It contains some email traffic between Cindy Anthony and private investigator Dominic Casey. It leads me to believe that there may be yet another angle that Jose
A couple of days ago I heard on the grapevine that a story was circulating that Richard Grund killed Caylee in an occult ritual. In my opinion it is much more likely that Casey Anthony did it in a Duct Tape ritual!
Some research has revealed the source of this rubbish, and it is none other than from PI Dominic Casey. A man who has the credibility of a three day old donut.
Here is a taste of the exchange, this is Cindy to Dominic talking about Richard Grund:
Isnt he crazy enough to do something to Caylee? Remember we originally thought that him and Deb were helping Jesse hid Caylee. it might sound crazy but what if they did a blood test and found out she was not a nephilim. People do crazy things like sacrifice people for their beliefs
Dominic’s response is equally inane:
You have seen nothing yet. What you have seen is the tip of the iceberg… RG is a Militia Boy, Racist, Demeans women and a total whack job… I will have him on the porno soon
I have spoken to Richard Grund on various occasions, he is clearly a man of honor. These allegations are so outrageous that I do hope Richard pursues some recourse from both the Anthony’s and Dominic Casey. OH, and it was Dominic Casey that compiled that hugely amusing list of guests that were not welcome at the Anthony memorial service. If you missed this classic piece of stupidity please read Jan’s article here.
I have the document, and I know the hands it has passed through, I am however not sure that it is in the public domain, so for the time being I think it is better not to publish it.
Simon Barretthttp://www.bloggernews.net/122445

mom_from_STL- Supreme Commander of the Universe With Cape AND Tights AND Fancy Headgear

Re: Going after RG now???
mom_from_STL wrote:I find it amazing, there is so much misinformation doing the rounds in this case that the Anthony clan make Pravda at the height of the cold war look like serious journalists! A clear target of the defense team is one time Casey Anthony boyfriend Jessie Grund. Jessie makes for a very poor target, he was one of the very few people involved that actually cared about Caylee Anthony. In fact sources tell me that his affection for Caylee was a source of friction between him and mother Casey Anthony.
A document came my way a couple of hours ago that I find very curious. It contains some email traffic between Cindy Anthony and private investigator Dominic Casey. It leads me to believe that there may be yet another angle that JoseBozoBaez and his seven dwarfs may go after. If they can not pin it on Jessie, they may try his father Richard Grund. This is the most ludicrous scenario I have heard yet.
A couple of days ago I heard on the grapevine that a story was circulating that Richard Grund killed Caylee in an occult ritual. In my opinion it is much more likely that Casey Anthony did it in a Duct Tape ritual!
Some research has revealed the source of this rubbish, and it is none other than from PI Dominic Casey. A man who has the credibility of a three day old donut.
Here is a taste of the exchange, this is Cindy to Dominic talking about Richard Grund:
Isnt he crazy enough to do something to Caylee? Remember we originally thought that him and Deb were helping Jesse hid Caylee. it might sound crazy but what if they did a blood test and found out she was not a nephilim. People do crazy things like sacrifice people for their beliefs
Dominic’s response is equally inane:
You have seen nothing yet. What you have seen is the tip of the iceberg… RG is a Militia Boy, Racist, Demeans women and a total whack job… I will have him on the porno soon
I have spoken to Richard Grund on various occasions, he is clearly a man of honor. These allegations are so outrageous that I do hope Richard pursues some recourse from both the Anthony’s and Dominic Casey. OH, and it was Dominic Casey that compiled that hugely amusing list of guests that were not welcome at the Anthony memorial service. If you missed this classic piece of stupidity please read Jan’s article here.
I have the document, and I know the hands it has passed through, I am however not sure that it is in the public domain, so for the time being I think it is better not to publish it.
Simon Barretthttp://www.bloggernews.net/122445
What may I ask does this mean? "what if they did a blood test and found out she was not a nephilim." What is nephilim?
call me stupid, but I never heard of this before?
MIZBELLA- Supreme Commander of the Universe With Cape AND Tights AND Fancy Headgear

Re: Going after RG now???
Ok, Nevermind.... I looked it up and it speaks volumes about just how crazy Cindy is. Don't get me wrong, I believe in god and I believe that Jesus is my savior, and I read my bible all the time.....but for someone who didn't suspect something was wrong for 31days when they didn't see or hear from their granddaughter to spew forth such a word.....uh' yeah she's nuts.
Nephilim (nēfĭl'ĭm),
in the Bible, Hebrew word of no known meaning, denoting peoples of
gigantic stature with superhuman strength. The term is translated as
"giants" in the Authorized Version. The Book of Genesis refers to
Nephilim as the offspring of marriages between "daughters of humans"
and "sons of God." See also Anak.
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For other uses, see Nephilim (disambiguation).
Nephilim are beings who appear in the Hebrew Bible; specifically mentioned in the Book of Genesis and the Book of Numbers; they are also mentioned in other Biblical texts and in some non-canonical Jewish writings.
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Etymology
The Hebrew word נְפִילִים (nephilim) mean "fallen ones".(from the NIV study Bible publish by Zondervan) Abraham ibn Ezra proposes that they were called this because men's hearts would fail at the sight of them. Some[who?] suggest that they were giants and when they fell, the ground shook, causing others to fall too.[citation needed] Jean Leclerc and Peter of Aquila among others suggest that it is derived from the warlike nature of the Nephilim, comparing the usage of Naphal in Job 1:15 "And the Sabeans fell upon them" where Naphal means "to take in battle". Alternatively, Shadal understands nephilim as deriving from the Hebrew word פלא Pele which means wondrous.[1] Another possibility is that the term is a generic term for "giants" in general,[2] which is consistent with the Septuagint and Vulgate
translations of the word. Some expositors believe it may refer more to
the ferocity and strength of the people who are referred to, rather
than their physical height,[3][4] though in the Book of Numbers intentional stress on height is apparent, whether metaphorical or actual (see below on Anakim).
Origin and identity
Genesis Chapter 6, verses 1 through 4 mentions Nephilim:
"Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. Then the LORD
said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed
flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when
the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children
to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.[5]
They are mentioned again in Numbers chapter 13, verses 32–33, in a description of the inhabitants of Hebron:
"So they gave out to the sons of Israel a bad report of the land
which they had spied out, saying, "The land through which we have gone,
in spying it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants; and all the
people whom we saw in it are men of great size. There also we saw the
Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became
like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight. [6]
There are five common views regarding the identity of the Nephilim.
Offspring of fallen angels
The Targum Jonathan states that the Nephilim were given this name because they were descended from fallen angels.[8]
The New American Bible commentary draws a parallel to the Epistle of Jude
and the statements set forth in Genesis, suggesting that the Epistle
refers implicitly to the paternity of Nephilim as heavenly beings who
came to earth and had sexual intercourse with women.[9] The footnotes of the Jerusalem Bible suggest that the Biblical author intended the Nephilim to be an "anecdote of a superhuman race".[10]
Genesis 6:4 implies that the Nephilim have inhabited the earth in at
least two different time periods—in antediluvian times "and afterward."
If the Nephilim were supernatural beings themselves, or at least the
progeny of supernatural beings, it is possible that the "giants of
Canaan" in Book of Numbers 13:33 were the direct descendants of the antediluvian Nephilim, or were fathered by the same supernatural parents.
In Aramaic culture, the term Nephila specifically referred to the constellation of Orion, and thus Nephilim to Orion's semi-divine descendants (cf. Anakim from Anak);[11] the implication being that this also is the origin of the Biblical Nephilim.
Some Christian commentators have argued against this view[12], citing Jesus' statement that angels do not marry.[13] Others believe that Jesus was only referring to angels in heaven.[14]
Offspring of human men
Many Jewish commentaries and translations describe the Nephilim as
being from the offspring of "sons of nobles" rather than from "sons of
God" or "sons of angels".[15] This is also the rendering suggested in the Targum Onkelos.
Likewise, a long-held view among some Christians is that the sons of
God did not birth the Nephilim spoken of in the text, but the formerly
righteous descendants of Seth who rebelled, while the daughters of men
were the unrighteous descendants of Cain, and the Nephilim the
offspring of their union.[16] This view dates to at least the 3rd century AD, with references in Sextus Julius Africanus,[17] as well as throughout the Clementine literature.[18] Holders of this view[19] have looked for support in Jesus' statement that "in the days before the flood they (humans) were marrying and giving in marriage"[20]
Similar terms
In the Hebrew Bible, there are a number of other words that, like "Nephilim", are sometimes translated as "giants":
Rephaim
See also: Valley of Rephaim
"Rephaim" (or Rephaites) is a general title that the Book of Joshua states was given to the aborigines who were afterwards conquered and dispossessed by the Canaanite tribes.[21] The text states that a few Rephaim had survived, one of them being Og, the king of Bashan. Og of Bashan is recorded as having a 13-foot long bed.[22]
The Rephaim may have been the same Canaanite group known to the Moabites as Emim,[24] i.e., fearful, and to the Ammonites as Zamzummim. The second of the Books of Samuel states that some of them found refuge among the Philistines, and were still existing in the days of David.
Nothing is known of their origin, nor of anything specifically
connecting them with Nephilim, though the connection is made by Jewish
tradition.
Anakim
Anakim (or Anakites) are the descendants of Anak, and dwelt in the south of Canaan, in the neighbourhood of Hebron. In the days of Abraham, they inhabited the region afterwards known as Edom and Moab, east of the Jordan river.
They are mentioned during the report of the spies about the inhabitants
of the land of Canaan. The book of Joshua states that Joshua finally
expelled them from the land, excepting a remnant that found a refuge in
the cities of Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod. The Philistine giant Goliath, whom David[25] later encountered, was supposedly a descendant of the Anakim.
It is more commonly suggested by traditional Jewish sources (such as the Midrash)
that the spies saw large and powerful inhabitants in Canaan and because
of their own fears, cowardice, and inadequate faith in Yahweh, saw themselves as grasshoppers in the eyes of the Canaanites, whether they were actual "giants" or not.
In other texts
Main articles: Book of Enoch, Book of Jubilees, and Grigori
In the texts of Ugarit,
there were 70 sons of God, each one being the special deity of a
particular people from whom they were descended. Some memory of this is
found in Biblical texts which speak of Baal Melkart of Tyre or Chemosh of Moab.
The story of the Nephilim is chronicled more fully in the Book of Enoch (part of Ethiopian biblical canon). Enoch, as well as Jubilees, connects the origin of the Nephilim with the fallen angels, and in particular with the Grigori (watchers). Samyaza, an angel
of high rank, is described as leading a rebel sect of angels in a
descent to earth to have sexual intercourse with human females:
According to these texts, the fallen angels who begat the Nephilim were cast into Tartarus/Gehenna,
a place of 'total darkness'. However, Jubilees also states that God
granted ten percent of the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim to
remain after the flood, as demons, to try to lead the human race astray
(through idolatry, the occult, etc.) until the final Judgment.
In addition to Enoch, the Book of Jubilees
(7:21–25) also states that ridding the Earth of these Nephilim was one
of God's purposes for flooding the Earth in Noah's time. The Biblical
reference to Noah being "perfect in his generations" may have referred
to his having a clean, Nephilim-free bloodline, although it may be
inferred that there was more diversity among his three daughters-in law.[citation needed]
These works describe the Nephilim as being evil giants.
There are also allusions to these descendants in the deuterocanonical books of Judith, Sirach, Baruch, 3 Maccabees, and Wisdom of Solomon.
Some individuals and groups, including the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, St. Augustine, John Calvin, and the Latter-day Saints, take the view of Genesis 6:2 that the "Angels" who fathered the Nephilim referred to certain human males from the lineage of Seth, who were called sons of God probably in reference to their being formerly in a covenantal relationship with Yahweh (cf. Deuteronomy 14:1; 32:5); according to these sources, these men had begun to pursue bodily interests, and so took wives of the daughters of men, i.e., those who were descended from Cain. Not only is this unequivocally stated in Ethiopian Orthodox versions of I Enoch and Jubilees, but this is also the view presented in a few extra-Biblical, yet ancient works, particularly the Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan.
In these sources, these offspring of Seth were said to have disobeyed
God, by breeding with the Cainites and producing wicked children "who
were all unlike", thus angering God into bringing about the Deluge.
Nowhere is the Ethiopian view presented more explicitly than in the Conflict of Adam Book 3, chap. 4[28]:
"Certain wise men of old wrote concerning them, and say in their
[sacred] books, that angels came down from heaven, and mingled with the
daughters of Cain, who bare unto them these giants. But these [wise
men] err in what they say. God forbid such a thing, that angels who are
spirits, should be found committing sin with human beings. Never, that
cannot be. And if such a thing were of the nature of angels, or Satans,
that fell, they would not leave one woman on earth, undefiled... But
many men say, that angels came down from heaven, and joined themselves
to women, and had children by them. This cannot be true. But they were
children of Seth, who were of the children of Adam, that dwelt on the
mountain, high up, while they preserved their virginity, their
innocence and their glory like angels; and were then called 'angels of
God.' But when they transgressed and mingled with the children of Cain,
and begat children, ill-informed men said, that angels had come down
from heaven, and mingled with the daughters of men, who bare them
giants."
In ancient Aram (from which we get the Aramaic language), the constellation Orion was known as Nephila, and Orion's descendants were known as Nephilim.[1][2]
Nephilim (nēfĭl'ĭm),
in the Bible, Hebrew word of no known meaning, denoting peoples of
gigantic stature with superhuman strength. The term is translated as
"giants" in the Authorized Version. The Book of Genesis refers to
Nephilim as the offspring of marriages between "daughters of humans"
and "sons of God." See also Anak.
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Etymology
The Hebrew word נְפִילִים (nephilim) mean "fallen ones".(from the NIV study Bible publish by Zondervan) Abraham ibn Ezra proposes that they were called this because men's hearts would fail at the sight of them. Some[who?] suggest that they were giants and when they fell, the ground shook, causing others to fall too.[citation needed] Jean Leclerc and Peter of Aquila among others suggest that it is derived from the warlike nature of the Nephilim, comparing the usage of Naphal in Job 1:15 "And the Sabeans fell upon them" where Naphal means "to take in battle". Alternatively, Shadal understands nephilim as deriving from the Hebrew word פלא Pele which means wondrous.[1] Another possibility is that the term is a generic term for "giants" in general,[2] which is consistent with the Septuagint and Vulgate
translations of the word. Some expositors believe it may refer more to
the ferocity and strength of the people who are referred to, rather
than their physical height,[3][4] though in the Book of Numbers intentional stress on height is apparent, whether metaphorical or actual (see below on Anakim).
Origin and identity
Genesis Chapter 6, verses 1 through 4 mentions Nephilim:
"Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. Then the LORD
said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed
flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when
the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children
to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.[5]
They are mentioned again in Numbers chapter 13, verses 32–33, in a description of the inhabitants of Hebron:
"So they gave out to the sons of Israel a bad report of the land
which they had spied out, saying, "The land through which we have gone,
in spying it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants; and all the
people whom we saw in it are men of great size. There also we saw the
Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became
like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight. [6]
There are five common views regarding the identity of the Nephilim.
- They were the hybrid offspring of fallen angels and human women.
- They were the offspring of descendants of Seth with those of Cain.Template:("De Sacrificiis Abelis et Caini"; "Quod Deterius Potiori Insidiari Soleat," 10)
- Webster's 1913 Dictionary defines the word simply as "Giant."
Thus, any especially tall, powerful, large, or mighty man would be
described in ancient times as Nephilim. Nephilim may simply mean
"giant," champion, or strong man. - The term might not refer to any specific race or group of people
but is a label similar to "hero," a legendary figure, or "great man."
The Bible itself describes the Nephilim as "Those were the mighty men
who were of old, men of renown." In this view, the Bible tells us that
Nephilim is a legendary or heroic figure, a mighty warrior, already
renowned in legend by the time Moses wrote down Genesis. Using the
Bible to define itself, Nephilim means a man of legend, one recounted
in legendary tales. - They are not historical figures and are ancient imagery with questionable meaning.[7]
Offspring of fallen angels
The Targum Jonathan states that the Nephilim were given this name because they were descended from fallen angels.[8]
The New American Bible commentary draws a parallel to the Epistle of Jude
and the statements set forth in Genesis, suggesting that the Epistle
refers implicitly to the paternity of Nephilim as heavenly beings who
came to earth and had sexual intercourse with women.[9] The footnotes of the Jerusalem Bible suggest that the Biblical author intended the Nephilim to be an "anecdote of a superhuman race".[10]
Genesis 6:4 implies that the Nephilim have inhabited the earth in at
least two different time periods—in antediluvian times "and afterward."
If the Nephilim were supernatural beings themselves, or at least the
progeny of supernatural beings, it is possible that the "giants of
Canaan" in Book of Numbers 13:33 were the direct descendants of the antediluvian Nephilim, or were fathered by the same supernatural parents.
In Aramaic culture, the term Nephila specifically referred to the constellation of Orion, and thus Nephilim to Orion's semi-divine descendants (cf. Anakim from Anak);[11] the implication being that this also is the origin of the Biblical Nephilim.
Some Christian commentators have argued against this view[12], citing Jesus' statement that angels do not marry.[13] Others believe that Jesus was only referring to angels in heaven.[14]
Offspring of human men
Many Jewish commentaries and translations describe the Nephilim as
being from the offspring of "sons of nobles" rather than from "sons of
God" or "sons of angels".[15] This is also the rendering suggested in the Targum Onkelos.
Likewise, a long-held view among some Christians is that the sons of
God did not birth the Nephilim spoken of in the text, but the formerly
righteous descendants of Seth who rebelled, while the daughters of men
were the unrighteous descendants of Cain, and the Nephilim the
offspring of their union.[16] This view dates to at least the 3rd century AD, with references in Sextus Julius Africanus,[17] as well as throughout the Clementine literature.[18] Holders of this view[19] have looked for support in Jesus' statement that "in the days before the flood they (humans) were marrying and giving in marriage"[20]
Similar terms
In the Hebrew Bible, there are a number of other words that, like "Nephilim", are sometimes translated as "giants":
Rephaim
See also: Valley of Rephaim
"Rephaim" (or Rephaites) is a general title that the Book of Joshua states was given to the aborigines who were afterwards conquered and dispossessed by the Canaanite tribes.[21] The text states that a few Rephaim had survived, one of them being Og, the king of Bashan. Og of Bashan is recorded as having a 13-foot long bed.[22]
| “ | Only Og king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaites. His bed was made of iron and was more than thirteen feet long and six feet wide. It is still in Rabbah of the Ammonites.[23] | ” |
The Rephaim may have been the same Canaanite group known to the Moabites as Emim,[24] i.e., fearful, and to the Ammonites as Zamzummim. The second of the Books of Samuel states that some of them found refuge among the Philistines, and were still existing in the days of David.
Nothing is known of their origin, nor of anything specifically
connecting them with Nephilim, though the connection is made by Jewish
tradition.
Anakim
Anakim (or Anakites) are the descendants of Anak, and dwelt in the south of Canaan, in the neighbourhood of Hebron. In the days of Abraham, they inhabited the region afterwards known as Edom and Moab, east of the Jordan river.
They are mentioned during the report of the spies about the inhabitants
of the land of Canaan. The book of Joshua states that Joshua finally
expelled them from the land, excepting a remnant that found a refuge in
the cities of Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod. The Philistine giant Goliath, whom David[25] later encountered, was supposedly a descendant of the Anakim.
| “ | The land, through which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people that we saw in it are of great height. And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.[26] | ” |
It is more commonly suggested by traditional Jewish sources (such as the Midrash)
that the spies saw large and powerful inhabitants in Canaan and because
of their own fears, cowardice, and inadequate faith in Yahweh, saw themselves as grasshoppers in the eyes of the Canaanites, whether they were actual "giants" or not.
In other texts
Main articles: Book of Enoch, Book of Jubilees, and Grigori
In the texts of Ugarit,
there were 70 sons of God, each one being the special deity of a
particular people from whom they were descended. Some memory of this is
found in Biblical texts which speak of Baal Melkart of Tyre or Chemosh of Moab.
The story of the Nephilim is chronicled more fully in the Book of Enoch (part of Ethiopian biblical canon). Enoch, as well as Jubilees, connects the origin of the Nephilim with the fallen angels, and in particular with the Grigori (watchers). Samyaza, an angel
of high rank, is described as leading a rebel sect of angels in a
descent to earth to have sexual intercourse with human females:
And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in
those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the
angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said
to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children
of men and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said
unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I
alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all
answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind
ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do
this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves by
mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who
descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they
called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by
mutual imprecations upon it... [27]
According to these texts, the fallen angels who begat the Nephilim were cast into Tartarus/Gehenna,
a place of 'total darkness'. However, Jubilees also states that God
granted ten percent of the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim to
remain after the flood, as demons, to try to lead the human race astray
(through idolatry, the occult, etc.) until the final Judgment.
In addition to Enoch, the Book of Jubilees
(7:21–25) also states that ridding the Earth of these Nephilim was one
of God's purposes for flooding the Earth in Noah's time. The Biblical
reference to Noah being "perfect in his generations" may have referred
to his having a clean, Nephilim-free bloodline, although it may be
inferred that there was more diversity among his three daughters-in law.[citation needed]
These works describe the Nephilim as being evil giants.
There are also allusions to these descendants in the deuterocanonical books of Judith, Sirach, Baruch, 3 Maccabees, and Wisdom of Solomon.
Some individuals and groups, including the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, St. Augustine, John Calvin, and the Latter-day Saints, take the view of Genesis 6:2 that the "Angels" who fathered the Nephilim referred to certain human males from the lineage of Seth, who were called sons of God probably in reference to their being formerly in a covenantal relationship with Yahweh (cf. Deuteronomy 14:1; 32:5); according to these sources, these men had begun to pursue bodily interests, and so took wives of the daughters of men, i.e., those who were descended from Cain. Not only is this unequivocally stated in Ethiopian Orthodox versions of I Enoch and Jubilees, but this is also the view presented in a few extra-Biblical, yet ancient works, particularly the Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan.
In these sources, these offspring of Seth were said to have disobeyed
God, by breeding with the Cainites and producing wicked children "who
were all unlike", thus angering God into bringing about the Deluge.
Nowhere is the Ethiopian view presented more explicitly than in the Conflict of Adam Book 3, chap. 4[28]:
"Certain wise men of old wrote concerning them, and say in their
[sacred] books, that angels came down from heaven, and mingled with the
daughters of Cain, who bare unto them these giants. But these [wise
men] err in what they say. God forbid such a thing, that angels who are
spirits, should be found committing sin with human beings. Never, that
cannot be. And if such a thing were of the nature of angels, or Satans,
that fell, they would not leave one woman on earth, undefiled... But
many men say, that angels came down from heaven, and joined themselves
to women, and had children by them. This cannot be true. But they were
children of Seth, who were of the children of Adam, that dwelt on the
mountain, high up, while they preserved their virginity, their
innocence and their glory like angels; and were then called 'angels of
God.' But when they transgressed and mingled with the children of Cain,
and begat children, ill-informed men said, that angels had come down
from heaven, and mingled with the daughters of men, who bare them
giants."
In ancient Aram (from which we get the Aramaic language), the constellation Orion was known as Nephila, and Orion's descendants were known as Nephilim.[1][2]

MIZBELLA- Supreme Commander of the Universe With Cape AND Tights AND Fancy Headgear

Re: Going after RG now???
RJGrund said,
in September 30th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Good evening Simon and Blogger News friends. I was alerted to this article by my brother and close friend, William “Cobra” Staubs, who I trust with my life.
I will be dealing with all of the accusations contained in the released documents in a blog I will post on My Space but let me address one concern here. I have never been shy about sharing my testimony that I did spend 30-years involved with the occult 21-YEARS AGO. That’s what my testimony is; of being saved, healed and delivered on October 9, 1988 from that by a Loving God who forgave me, gave me back the family I discarded and made me His own. I’ve spent the last 21-years giving back to Him what He gave to me by helping anyone that needs help in that area. The statement in the documented emails and in the online posts the people working with the investigator is misleading and I believe deliberately meant to be so. If you want to know my story you can go to this link and listen to it as the so-called professional private investigator obviously did not. If you listen to the link you know the Truth. http://theswordsedge.podbean.com/2008/10/30/lets-talkan-interview-done-about-my-testimony/ If anyone wants to know what I teach or believe listen to the other audio links or go to http://ontheporch.org/theporch Everything you want to know about me is that. I do not hide what I do or who I am for the Kingdom of God, my Heavenly Father. I do not hide in shadows or lies but live in the Light. There is more I can say on this topic but I will address it in the forthcoming blog. Let me leave everyone with this - my son Jesse and my family love Caylee with all our hearts. There is not a moment that we don’t grieve for her loss. The only thing keeping us going through this ordeal is our faith and trust in a Living God. We know we will see Caylee again someday.
Thank you again for the care, concern and compassion. I appreciate people like Simon, his wife and others out there who can see the truth in the midst of the lies. Although this recent document release was hurtful it was also a blessing. Now everyone knows we have been enduring for the last 16-months and it’s been brought out into the Light. All of the online trolls who have been harassing us are in those emails. I read my brother Cobra’s closing statement and all I can say to those involved is “what he said!”
My God is an awesome God!
Shalom & Blessings,
Richard Grund
http://www.bloggernews.net/122445
in September 30th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Good evening Simon and Blogger News friends. I was alerted to this article by my brother and close friend, William “Cobra” Staubs, who I trust with my life.
I will be dealing with all of the accusations contained in the released documents in a blog I will post on My Space but let me address one concern here. I have never been shy about sharing my testimony that I did spend 30-years involved with the occult 21-YEARS AGO. That’s what my testimony is; of being saved, healed and delivered on October 9, 1988 from that by a Loving God who forgave me, gave me back the family I discarded and made me His own. I’ve spent the last 21-years giving back to Him what He gave to me by helping anyone that needs help in that area. The statement in the documented emails and in the online posts the people working with the investigator is misleading and I believe deliberately meant to be so. If you want to know my story you can go to this link and listen to it as the so-called professional private investigator obviously did not. If you listen to the link you know the Truth. http://theswordsedge.podbean.com/2008/10/30/lets-talkan-interview-done-about-my-testimony/ If anyone wants to know what I teach or believe listen to the other audio links or go to http://ontheporch.org/theporch Everything you want to know about me is that. I do not hide what I do or who I am for the Kingdom of God, my Heavenly Father. I do not hide in shadows or lies but live in the Light. There is more I can say on this topic but I will address it in the forthcoming blog. Let me leave everyone with this - my son Jesse and my family love Caylee with all our hearts. There is not a moment that we don’t grieve for her loss. The only thing keeping us going through this ordeal is our faith and trust in a Living God. We know we will see Caylee again someday.
Thank you again for the care, concern and compassion. I appreciate people like Simon, his wife and others out there who can see the truth in the midst of the lies. Although this recent document release was hurtful it was also a blessing. Now everyone knows we have been enduring for the last 16-months and it’s been brought out into the Light. All of the online trolls who have been harassing us are in those emails. I read my brother Cobra’s closing statement and all I can say to those involved is “what he said!”
My God is an awesome God!
Shalom & Blessings,
Richard Grund
http://www.bloggernews.net/122445

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Re: Going after RG now???
FOR THE RECORD
On Tuesday September 29, 2009 another batch of documents pertaining to the Casey Anthony trial were released to the public. Usually I do not comment on these documents but as there were some information in those documents specifically pertaining to my son Jesse, myself and my family that were offensive, derogatory in nature and misleading I felt the need to address them. I understand the fascination with this case and the people who have become emotionally involved in Caylee’s story. Because of that I want to make sure you can discuss things with ALL of the information at hand and not just the malicious lies and deliberately misleading information contained therein.
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Some of what I write here will be strict facts and some of it might be tongue-in-cheek. You will have to discern which is which. What ever it is – it will be the truth!

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