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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:17 am

Now that the revelations have come out regarding the PI's and the video tape - let's try to track who knew what and when did they know it.

Todd Black made the slip of the deceased caylee: inmyfloridaopinion posted

Todd Black on about the deceased Caylee from way back:


http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Todd+Black&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:33 am

by mom_in_il Today at 9:14 pmOK, what if . . .

Casey tells either Lee - before she's locked up - or Baez where to find the remains.
November 15th - 16th Baez sends the PIs to look. They find the area under water. Find no remains.
November 21st George & Cindy appear in interview. Cindy is catatonic. She knows!
November 25th Baez files motion to take laptop to jail. Wins.
Sometime after November 25 th Baez uploads video onto his laptop to show Casey and narrow down where to find remains.
December 11 Meter reader finds remains first!
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Post by girlwonder Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:34 am

November 14ish - Nejame quits the case right around the time the PI's are in the woods.
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Post by just_a_mom Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:50 am

Nov. 12 or 13 Anthonys fire spokesperson (Garrison) http://www.abcactionnews.com/content/news/specialreports/caylee_anthony/story/Casey-Anthony-family-says-spokesman-pocketed/Zm3R42Ozhku4cEyMG4vHXw.cspx
Nov. 14 Dr Lee views car http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/casey-anthonys-defense-team-examines-her-car/
Nov. 14 Padilla asked to take lie-detector (don't know if this is relevant)
Nov. 15 Meet and Greet Anthonys at Kidfinders http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/anthonys-hold-meet-and-greet/
Nov. 19 Channel 6 tours Anthonys home http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18013764/detail.html


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Post by mom_in_il Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:36 am

November 13th Garrison resigns siting Anthonys' erratic behavior
November 20th Nejame resigns, he no longer wants to represent the Anthonys
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Post by admin Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:09 pm

Nov. 20th Florida Mall "sighting" being thrown out to public by Anthonys, they claim it is Caylee.
Nov. 21st Cindy catatonic in interview, Michelle Bart discusses Florida Mall sighting....
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Post by admin Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:39 pm

Compiled so far:


Nov. 7 - 8 Leonard Padilla searches Little Econ at Jay Blanchard Park

Nov. 13 - Family spokesperson Larry Garrison resigns citing Anthonys' erratic behavior
Nov. 14– PI Dominic Casey asks to meet with PI Hoover.
Nov. 14 – Dr. Lee examines car.
Nov. 14 - Padilla asked to take lie-detector.
Nov. 15 – PI Casey and PI Hoover video pre-crime scene.
Nov. 15 - Meet and Greet with the Anthonys at Kidfinders.
Nov. 16 – PI Casey and PI Hoover video pre-crime scene again.
Nov. 16 - Florida Mall "sighting" picture supposedly sent to the Anthonys.
Nov. 19 OSCO Announces They believe Caylee no longer alive, won't follow tips.
Nov. 19 - Channel 6 tours Anthony’s home.
Nov. 19 - Cindy catatonic in interview in which new spokesperson Michelle Bart discusses Florida Mall sighting.
Nov.
20 - Press conference at which Cindy and George had promised to release
hard evidence that Caylee is still alive, is called off.
Nov. 20 - Nejame resigns, says he no longer wants to represent the Anthonys.
Nov. 20 (Rumor) LE seen at Anthony's Home (Rumor)
Nov. 25 Anthonys and M Bart hold Press Conference
Nov. 25 Gag Order Denied / Baez wins Laptop Motion
Nov. 29-30 Cindy's Email Hacked
Nov. 30 National Vigil Held
Dec. 1
(Rumor) Lee tells LE where to Find Remains
Dec. 5 Death Penalty Taken off Table
Dec. 11 Caylee's Remains Found
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Post by MIZBELLA Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:07 pm

OCTOBER 14 - GRAND JURY HANDS DOWN 7 COUNT INDITEMENT ( 1ST DEGREE MURDER).

DEFENSE SPOKESMAN TODD BLACK (SO CALLED MISTAKE OF WORDS)...SAID CAYLEE WAS DECEASED.

OCTOBER 31
- GEORGE ANTHONY SPOTTED IN WOODS 4 MILES FROM ANTHONY HOME(NEAR AIRPORT) SAID TO BE LOOKING FOR SITE FOR MOBILE BILLBOARD, OR DID HE KNOW SHE WAS DUMPED IN THE WOODS SOMEWHERE, NOT KNOWING THAT IT WAS SO CLOSE TO HOME.

NOVEMBER 5
- CASEY ANTHONY DEFENSE WROTE MEMO THAT CAYLEE MAY HAVE DIED FROM ACCIDENTAL OVERDOSE OF SEDITIVES AND IT WAS LEAKED TO THE PRESS.

******* REASON'S WHY THE DEFENSE WOULD WRITE SUCH A MEMO AND HAVE IT LEAKED TO THE PROSECUTORS*****

1.) SETTING THE STAGE FOR A 3RD DEGREE MURDER CHARGE.
2.) MENTAL ILLNESS DEFENSE.
3.) THEY KNEW WHERE CAYLEE'S BODY WAS AND WANTED TO MAKE A PLEA DEAL OF ACCIDENTAL OVERDOSE.

*** THE LEAKING OF THIS MEMO DID NOT PAN OUT BECAUSE THE PROSECUTORS DID'NT BITE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAD ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF CASEY'S GUILT.*****

NOVEMBER 5
- LP ANNOUNCES ON NG THAT TM WILL FIND BODY BY MONDAY 11/8. ON THIS SAME DAY THE DEFENSE PLEADS STATE NOT TO SEEK DEATH PENALTY "SHE IS TO YOUNG TO DIE, SHE MAYBE DEPRESSED AND SUFFERING MENTAL ILLNESS". THE DEFENSE ALSO CONFIRM GEORGE WAS IN THE WOODS ON 10/31.... WHY WOULD THEY CARE IF GEORGE WAS IN ANY WOODED AREA NEAR THE HOME? WAS THE DEFENSE FEARFUL THAT GEORGE ALSO KNEW WHERE CAYLEE'S REMAINS WERE?

NOVEMBER 14
- DR. LEE AND BAEZ EXAMINE CAR THAT STILL REEKED OF DECOMP AFTER 4 MONTHS.

NOVEMBER 14
- ANTHONY'S RUMORED TO MAKE ANNOUNCEMENT ON MONDAY( SPOKESMAN FIRED)

NOVEMBER 15-16
- PI'S IN AREA WHERE REMAINS ARE LATER FOUND AND MADE 2 VIDEOS OF AREA. ONE VIDEO IS RECORDED OVER, WHY? MAYBE THEY DID CATCH CAYLEE'S REMAINS ON VIDEO??

NOVEMBER 20
- MARK NEJAME RESIGNS AS THE ANTHONY'S ATTORNEY. DID HE FINALLY REALIZE HOW DEEP THE ANTHONY'S WERE INVOLVED IN THIS CRIME AND HOW GUILTY THEIR LIES IN THE MEDIA MADE THEM LOOK? OR DID HE BECOME PRIVY TO THE WHERE ABOUTS OF CAYLEE'S REMAINS AND COULD NO LONGER REPRESENT THE ANTHONY'S BECAUSE HE HAS SOME FORM OF MORALS?

DECEMBER 5
- STATE WILL NOT SEEK DEATH PENALTY.

DECEMBER 10
- ANTHONY'S ON LKL.

DECEMBER 11
- ****** CAYLEE'S REMAINS ARE FOUND BY METER READER.

DECEMBER 15
- BRAD COWLEY IS THE ANTHONY'S NEW LAWYER.... ****THEY ARE SEEKING IMMUNITY SO THEIR WORDS ARE NOT USED AGAINST THEM.***** SIGN OF GUILT?

DECEMBER 29
- MARK NEJAME... ANTHONY'S FORMER LAWYER, CONSIDERING GIVING KRONK THE METER READER A $5,000 DOLLAR REWARD. THIS IS VERY DAMNING EVIDENCE IN MY OPINION..... WAS THIS NEJAMES WAY OF CONFIRMING THAT THE ANTHONY'S CONFIDED IN HIM ABOUT THE WHERE ABOUTS OF THE REMAINS. THIS WAY HE DID NOT BREAK ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILAGE?

DECEMBER 29
- PI HOOVER SAYS HE VIDEO TAPED AREA WHERE REMAINS WHERE FOUND AND SAYS THAT THERE WAS NO BODY THERE AT THAT TIME.

DECEMBER 29
- LEE ANTHONY'S ATTORNEY SAYS HE COULD FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES.

JANUARY 7
- LP SAID ON NG THAT PI'S TOLD HIM THAT CAYLEE WAS DEAD AND "THEY WERE GOING TO GET HER". LP CALLED NICK SAVAGE AT THE FBI AND REPORTED WHAT HE WAS TOLD BY THE PI'S.

JANUARY 9
- TEST FROM BOTANIST AND ENTOMOLOGIST CONFIRM TIME FRAME OF CAYLEE'S DEATH WAS JUNE AND BELIEVE THAT HER BODY WAS DUMPED AROUND 6/18 BECAUSE OF BUG REMAINS AND PLANTS.


VERY, VERY, INTERESTING......
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Post by mom_in_il Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:46 am


Nov. 8 Hoover at TES search
in front of several people actually filed a search directive saying that the body was actually where it was located - Casey's car sighted parked there!


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Post by Impetuous Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:47 pm

http://www.bloggernews.net/119355

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"MyFoxOrlando is reporting that Tim Miller, from Texas Equusearch is now saying that on November 8th Jim Hoover reported a tip to one of his volunteers which involved a wooded area near the Anthony home, which happens to be the same area where Caylee’s remains were found in December. “He actually told (searcher) Bill Todd that nobody could know he was out there,” Miller said. “And it had to be kept a big secret that he is working as security for the Anthony’s and if the Anthony’s ever found out he was out there his job would be in jeopardy.”"

....

New tip in Casey Anthony case

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8225751&version=1&locale=EN-US
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Post by just_a_mom Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:01 am

Nov. 15 Lee finished driving class for traffic ticket
DEFENDANT COMPLETED DDC ON *11/15/2008 RECEIVED BY FAX
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=ce947e73-c7c7-4027-b896-d678570340d8&CaseID=6058291

Nov. 20 Lee's birthday
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Post by karma Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:13 pm

I had posted this somewhere else in late November, discussing another topic but you might be able to incorporate some of my findings:


I think interpreting the handwriting on the 2nd document somehow will
translate into connecting who requested that KC take pics and videos
from the home and how KC is paying for her defense.
Mainly, it had me thinking of some of the players we haven't heard from
in a while and now looking back, the whirl of activity in November 2008
may hold some answers.

Garrison (LG) - became spokesperson for CA & GA 15-Aug-08. Resigns and gets fired 12-Nov-08
Nejame (MN) - begins as legal advisor to the A's on or about 15-18 Aug-08, resigns 20-Nov-08
Hoover & DC search Suburban remains site 15-Nov-08

In September 2008, Black (TB) Press Corps Media says there is national
organizations and groups and about a dozen individuals helping JB and
that all had signed a confidentiality agreement.

In his depo, Hoover says DC told him that JB was paid $200k by ABC.
For his part, DC claims he stopped working for JB because JB refused to pay him.

ABC said it paid licensing fees for photos and videos but would not say to whom the monies were paid.

MN produces LG invoice with Dateline NBC for the sum of $6500 licensing fee. MN says LG did not have photos to sell.
CA states she felt 'betrayed' when she learned of this. (IIRC CA was not questioned about this specifically by SA).

Note that LG was already on scene when KC was first bonded out in August.

For consideration: Was LG the middle man playing both sides of the
fence, setting up national interviews for the A's then turning around
and using the videos-pics provided by JB, negotiating (and accepting)
licensing fees for these to be broadcast during the A's interviews,
turn around and pay JB via another source, all to benefit KC's defense?
Is this one of the reasons JB consults an ethics advisor?
(If so, is LG still under JB's hat for continued licensing negotiations or has he been replaced?)
When he exposed LG, MN says his clients were 'walked into a snake pit'.

When MN agreed to be the A's legal advisor, he clearly stated that he
was in no way shape or form representing KC. He also said he would not
continue on if he learned that any of them were making money off of
Caylee. In another video he adds 'particularly if Caylee was found not
to be with us anymore'.
http://www.wftv.com/video/18027694/index.html

What was the unspoken reason for MN's resignation? He is extremely
ethical therefore, did he resign because he learned that the A's were
possibly aware that KC was using Caylee pics to finance her defense?
Or, he learned that someone in the A family was aware of the location
of the remains (ref: CA 'I already sent my people to search that area
in November... ' and-or without clearing it with him first? All or none
of the above apply?
We know that backroom $ deals were being made by someone on KC-JB
behalf, we also know that DC went looking in the very area where Caylee
was found.
So, DC quits working for JB early October and begins working for the A's.
LG quits (and is fired) in November, MN resigns in November, DC searches remains area in November.
IMO, I'm guessing that much was known in November by all these players,
that has yet to be disclosed though we will never hear more from MN due
to attorney-client privilege. But I assume more is yet to come from the
other players.

Food for thought and all imo Who knew what and when did they know it? Twocents. Hope my post isn't too confusing.
Here are a few other supporting links.

http://daliagirl33.wordpress.com/200...e-on-garrison/

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-dominic-casey

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...orge-and-cindy

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2...html?refresh=1


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Post by momgot2kids Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:29 pm

DC searches the woods Nov 15th, A's at KF function,
Nov 17 Morgan annouces question for KC also that day A's hire Michelle Barf,
Nov 21 NeJames quit, A's appear on News13 CA out of it Possible Caylee Anthony Sighting at Mall Investigated by Private Firm
Friday, November 21, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,456206,00.html,
Nov 28 GA seen driving around with billboard http://www.wftv.com/news/18159143/detail.html,
Dec 8th announced the A's to appear on LKL,
Dec 10 A's appear,
Dec 11 Caylee found
Dec 14 Brad Conway is hired speaks for family http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2008/12/missing_girl_grandparents_hope.html
Dec 19 Caylee postive ID
Dec 31 Hoover speaks about video
Jan 23, 2009 GA suicide threat http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html
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Post by oviedo45 Wed May 19, 2010 8:34 pm

tears4caylee wrote:Have you seen this video from july 22, 2008....Spindy says June 14th as the last day kc saw Caylee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJl3S4Shkjk
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