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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:51 pm

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Ashton moves hair samples from family members into evidence, Lowe is looking at the samples #caseyanthonytrial


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Ashton: How many human hairs did you find in the "unknown" samples sent to you? Lowe: At least 10. #CaseyAnthony
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Ashton: How many human hairs did you find in the "unknown" samples sent to you? Lowe: At least 10.





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Of those 10 (she says should be 11), one hair exhibited signs of decomposition, sample Q-12. #CaseyAnthony


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A hair brush that belonged to Caylee was also moved into evidence #caseyanthonytrial





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Caucasian head hair with apparent decomposition, a darkened band consistent with PM root banding. #CaseyAnthony
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:55 pm

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The hair had a dark band on it. Expert says that's a sign of decomposition.


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She used stereo microscope and comparison microscope.


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Lt-to med brown; no tissue present; 9" long. #CaseyAnthony


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Lowe explains the hair known as state's exhibit 99, says it was head hair w/ apparent decomposition


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None of the others had PM banding. She compared the one hair to hairbrush to determine Caylee's. #CaseyAnthony
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Hair was dissimilar from that of #CaseyAnthony but was consistent with Caylee's hair from hairbrush.


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Expert says the hair did not come from #CaseyAnthony but it did look similar to the hairs of Caylee Anthony


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The hair was 9 inches long, light to medium brown, showed similarities to hair found in Caylee's hair brush


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Lowe said she received a hair sample from Casey Anthony but not Cindy Anthony
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:57 pm

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Based upon her exam, her opinion is that hair matching Caylee's shows PM root banding consistent with decomposition. #CaseyAnthony


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Lowe saved portion of hair with PMRB and sent the rest of that particular hair to lab for mitochondrial DNA testing. #CaseyAnthony
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:59 pm

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Lowe says that (in her opinion) the hair matching Caylee's shows PM root banding consistent with decomposition #caseyanthonytrial


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Witness looking at evidence inside sealed envelope. It is the hair that showed signs of root banding.





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Lowe also explains that the PM root banding is only associated with decomposition in the research she referenced earlier #caseyanthonytrial
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:00 pm

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Uses conservative term "apparent" decomposition because, while not replicated in other scenarios, can't say it never could be. #CaseyAnthony



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Baez says good morning to everyone in the courtroom. He'll now cross examine Lowe.
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:02 pm

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Ashton done. Baez: FBI has learned a lot, but people's hair stays the same. Science changed drastically over years? #CaseyAnthony


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Mircoscopes, etc. have changed, but identifying the visual characteristics has not, Lowe said. #CaseyAnthony
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:03 pm

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Jose Baez asking Lowe about her career and the FBI's stance on hair as identification #caseyanthonytrial


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Lowe to Baez: It comes down to comparative biology #caseyanthonytrial


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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:04 pm

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Judge: Approach the bench #caseyanthonytrial


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Sidebar. If you're playing the sidebar drinking game, at least it's the weekend. #DontSidebarAndDrive#CaseyAnthony



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And we are approaching the bench! Baez does not like this science. State doesn't like his questioning. Judge looks irritated
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:06 pm

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Jurors looking around while in sidebar. #CaseyAnthony


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Now in 15 min recess
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:16 pm

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Judge calls 15 minutes recess for the jury, will come back around 10:20 a.m. #caseyanthonytrial


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Recap: Speaking to jurors, Lowe cited literature and research documenting the phenomenon of post mortem root banding.


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She said a single hair identified for this case was similar to one pulled from Caylee's brush & wasn't similar to a hair of Casey Anthony's
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:30 pm

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Judge Perry is back on the bench and court is in session #CaseyAnthony


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Forensics professor here counseling state just told me this is the forensic case of the decade. He says this case is making history


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"Mr. Baez, if you're going to read at a rapid rate sir, there will not be a record."
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"Unless you were somewhere different than I was..."


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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:33 pm

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Recess is over. Baez wants to question witness about a journal article that says hair ID isn't reliable. #CaseyAnthony


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Judge to Baez: You don't pull something out and start reading it #CaseyAnthony
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Judge says witness would have to say she finds that journal reliable first. Also, judge said she said "apparent" vs "certain." #CaseyAnthony


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Karen Korsberg Lowe, an FBI forensic evidence examiner who testifies regarding microscopic hair examinations is back #CaseyAnthony


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Witness returns to the stand. Baez is going to make a proffer (questions her outside presence of jury). #CaseyAnthony
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Baez: NAS recognized body of scientists? Lowe: Yes. Report commissioned by Congress? Lowe: As far as I know. #CaseyAnthony


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Baez is continuing to question Lowe, the jury is not in the room #CaseyAnthony


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Consider this authoritative article? Lowe: Not all members scientists, but as far as guidance in what cld be improved, yes #CaseyAnthony
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Post by Impetuous Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:38 pm

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Jury is not present. Baez questioning Expert witness Lowe





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Lowe says article was about limitation of disclipine vs. criticisms of the discipline. Accompanying DNA needed, FBI does that. #CaseyAnthony


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Lowe explains that not all of the authors in the article that Baez is referencing are scientists #CaseyAnthony
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Familiar w/analyst Michael Malone? Yes. Gates case? Yes. Baez: Man convicted based on hair match, later overturned. #CaseyAnthony


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Baez is using his phone while questioning Lowe #CaseyAnthony
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"I am not permitting testimony about any other case."


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Lowe says if Malone said hair came from certain person, period, that was wrong. If indistinguishable from sample, it's proper. #CaseyAnthony


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"Do not go there."


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Judge Perry to Baez: "don't even go there"
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Judge to Baez: We are not going to try another case in this courtroom. #CaseyAnthony



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Judge tells Baez "not to go there," that they weren't going to be bringing up other cases during questioning witnesses. #CaseyAnthony
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Baez asks Lowe is familiar with particular FBI study. Yes, looked at microscopic vs. mitochondrial DNA results of hair. #CaseyAnthony


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Lowe: Can't say a hair came from one person to exclusion of all others. FBI just says whether it's consistent with. #CaseyAnthony
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Baez wants this evidence thrown out. he's reading past cases


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Ashton: Proffer appears not to impeach witness but to agree with her. How is it relevant to get witness to agree w/self? #CaseyAnthony


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Ashton is explaining that what Baez is trying to bring in is not relevant #CaseyAnthony


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LOL Judge: If he wants to bolster her testimony, I'll let him do it. #CaseyAnthony


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Judge will let defense bring the case in with limitations #CaseyAnthony


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"I know it's Saturday morning, but I think I've made myself abundantly clear about what should not be done."
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Ashton to Baez, "if I can finish!" its heated between them. Baez does not want to give up on this hair banding topic.


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Baez interrupts Ashton, Ashton yells "If I can finish?" #CaseyAnthony
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Baez looks like he doesn't feel well to me. Maybe the stress and strain is getting to him a bit. #CaseyAnthony


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Jury is back. They all look nice. "church clothes" wonder if they had to go shopping? How would you pack for this long?!


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The jury is back in to hear Baez question Lowe #CaseyAnthony


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Baez now asks Lowe about the NAS article in front of the jury. Highly critical of microscopic hair analysis? #CaseyAnthony
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