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Post by mom_in_il on Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:40 pm

Kyron Horman's Mom: Terri Horman 'Stashed' Missing Oregon Boy

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Post by mom_in_il on Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:42 pm

Kyron Horman's Mom: Terri Horman 'Stashed' Missing Oregon Boy

Retired Sheriff's Captain: Indictments in Case 'Inevitable'

By MIKE von FREMD and SARAH NETTER

July 28, 2010

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Desperate to see her 7-year-old son again, Kyron Horman's mother has lashed out at the boy's stepmother, saying she believes Terri Horman has "stashed" the missing boy somewhere.

Desiree Young told People magazine Tuesday that, despite repeated pleas for Terri Horman to cooperate with police, she's depending on the investigation to bring her son home.

"I believe that he's stashed," she said.

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Post by alwaysbelieve on Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:08 am

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/terri_hormans_divorce_attorney.html
lTerri Horman's divorce attorney cites intense media, police scrutiny, for delay in divorce proceedings

Published: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 4:14 PM Updated: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 4:54 PM

The divorce attorney for Terri Moulton Horman has filed a motion to delay divorce proceedings from Kaine Horman, citing intense media and police scrutiny of his client.

Attorney Peter Bunch filed the petition today in Multnomah County Circuit Court. Bunch states that the controversy surrounding Horman, "the center" of the criminal investigation into the disappearance last month of 7-year-old Kyron Horman, makes it "virtually impossible for me to proceed with divorce-related issues as I would ordinarily do."

Bunch also contends that Kaine Horman "grossly misstated" the amount of money paid to Terri Horman's criminal attorney, Stephen Houze. Kaine Horman's attorney, Laura Rackner, filed papers earlier this week saying that Terri Horman paid $350,000 to Houze.

Bunch contends in the motion to hold the divorce in abatement, that Terri Horman "did not borrow the money to pay for Mr. Houze's attorney fees, the money to not come from her funds, and she's not asserting that her attorney fees with Mr. Houze are any sort of marital debt."

Bunch also questions Kaine Horman's inability to pay his legal fees, saying that he is employed at Intel with a good salary and that he has sufficient savings to pay for the divorce.

"Accordingly, it is difficult to conceive that Petitioner is unable to meet his expenses and pay for his attorney fees."

Bunch also states that Terri Horman is unemployed, and unemployable, and has no independent source of money to pay her legal fees.

Further, Bunch says that custody issues and parenting time, which require an independent evaluator, would be compromised by police scrutiny.

"It is unlikely that any competent evaluator would agree to work on this matter" because "his or her work product could become part of the investigation..."

The document also states that Terry Horman stipulates that she will not claim any of Kaine Horman's post-separation assets, and "is prepared to stipulate to the entry of a divorce judgment...."

-- Stuart Tomlinson
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Post by kiwimom on Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:50 am

I hope it's ok to copy these posts from someone posting at Valhalls who has first hand knowledge of some facts. She sounds credible to me.

I was there Thursday morning and Friday. On Thursday am, I did not see
groups touring. On Friday, parents were invited from 8:00 to 10:00.
For the students, the school day started at 8:45 as usual. My kids
teacher did a short circle time, after which the students were divided
in groups of 4-6. Each group was chaperoned by a parent-volunteer or in
some cases an 8th grader. The older kids had notebooks that they used
to make their reports. At 10:00 all groups were back in the classrooms,
and the school continued “as usual”.

Maura said “Do you know where Kyron’s (Ms. Porter’s) second grade classroom is?”

From the main entrance (on the 2nd floor), you would take a left into
the long hallway. Kyron’s combined 2nd/3rd grade classroom is on the
far West end of that hallway, just before the stairs. From the stairs
there is an emergency exit that leads to tall grass, and a small hill
down to the soccer field.
The electrical displays were two (?) classrooms before Kyron’s. Just
before that on the right is the North exit door that leads to the
basketball court and wooded area in the back of the school.

MLR says “Did the teachers take roll call on Friday at 8;45 a.m. before the science fair and then again afterward?”

Remember compared to PPS standards, Skyline keeps its classrooms
relatively small thanks to money raised by the PTO. The typical size is
about 23 kids. I can only talk about a different class, but I have
never heard names called out as in a formal roll call, but whenever
there was a student missing, it was always noticed and followed up on.
The kids have designated tables, and it is easily noted if one is
missing.
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Post by kiwimom on Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:54 am

MLR said “Where were the projects set up?
Were projects brought in on Thurs? Was there anything sent home with
the kids stating when they needed to be picked up? If the projects were
left at school did they have to be moved in order for students to sit
at the desks?”


Most classrooms put the projects on top of the tables. Some put then
along the walls. The projects were supposed to be in on Tuesday (?),
but I saw many coming in late on Wed/Thu. The details about the IB Expo
were well communicated. The paperwork contained several pages with
requirements and a time line. It was clear that the expo was until
10:00am that day. Everybody knows that school is out at 3pm, so it is
trivial to conclude that the project could be picked up any day after
3pm. Note that the size of the project was limited to “poster size”.
Many kids used the typical tri-fold boards with a small extra in front
of it. These boards fold up to about 20×30″. You don’t need a big car
to transport that.
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Post by mom_in_il on Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:50 am

Respondent's Motion to hold Case in Abatement:

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/terri+horman+abate+divorce.pdf

So Terri want to hold up the divorce proceedings . . .
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Post by mom_in_il on Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:55 am

Motion Filed To Stall Horman Divorce

Attorney Says Terri Horman 'Not Employable'

POSTED: 3:47 pm PDT July 28, 2010
UPDATED: 8:21 pm PDT July 28, 2010

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PORTLAND, Ore. -- Attorneys for Kyron Horman's stepmother filed a motion Wednesday to delay her divorce case because "intense scrutiny" generated from the criminal investigation won't allow them to proceed fairly, according to new court documents.

Terri Horman's estranged husband, Kaine Horman, filed for divorce and asked for a restraining order against her late last month.

Peter Bunch, one of Terri Horman's lawyers, said in the documents that she is "under intense scrutiny as part of an ongoing investigation into the disappearance of Kyron Horman," which is making it difficult for him to move ahead with the divorce case.

READ MORE: http://www.kptv.com/news/24429265/detail.html
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Post by mom_in_il on Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:57 am

Terri Horman says no contest in divorce

July 28, 2010 Associated Press

July 28, 2010

PORTLAND, Ore. -- The stepmother of a missing Oregon boy has decided not to contest the divorce sought by the father of Kyron Horman.

In court documents filed Wednesday, Terri Horman said "intense scrutiny" by law enforcement and media prevent her lawyer from handling the divorce in an "effective and orderly fashion."

Her request, called a motion for abatement, would allow a judge to dismiss the case from a trial docket.

It also asks that other issues be postponed, such as financial settlements and child care.

Terri Horman was the last person known to have seen 7-year-old Kyron, who vanished from his school on June 4, setting off a massive search and investigation that has resulted in national media attention.

http://kdrv.com/news/local/183001
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Post by mom_in_il on Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:59 am

Kyron Horman Update: Parents Not Scheduled to Testify to Grand Jury

9:34 AM July 28th, 2010 by James Pitkin

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The parents of Kyron Horman say they were surprised that grand jury was looking into the case of their missing 7-year-old boy.

Kaine Horman and Desiree Young say they haven’t been asked to testify before a Multnomah County grand jury and had no knowledge that Dede Spicher, a friend of stepmom Terri Moulton Horman, would be subpoenaed to appear Monday in the case.

READ MORE: http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/28/kyron-horman-update-parents-not-scheduled-to-testify-to-grand-jury/
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Post by mom_in_il on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:08 am

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Post by mom_in_il on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:18 am

Nancy Grace 7/27/2010

Friend of Missing Kyron`s Stepmom in the Spotlight

Transcript:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/1007/27/ng.01.html
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Post by mom_in_il on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:21 am

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Post by mom_in_il on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:23 am

Nancy Grace 7/28/2010

Bio Mom Thinks Stepmom "Stashed" Kyron Somewhere

Transcript:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/1007/28/ng.01.html
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Post by Mercy on Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:12 pm

This is "HUGE" mom_in_il and alwaysbelieve,
The divorce abatement, Kaine can contest, and for very good reason TH does not want to go to court. She does not want to answer questions of any sort. This has nothing to do with public scrunity. This is just too obvious.
The lawyer Kaine has is one smart "Cookie".
It's time TH comes out of the closet and comes clean.

God is blessing you Kyron!
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Post by oviedo45 on Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:25 pm

i hope the judge doesn't buy into this argument - kaine deserves to be free of her - regardless if she had anything to do with kyron -
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Post by mom_in_il on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:36 pm

Kaine’s Feelings Now About Decision to Marry Terri (Updated With Audio)

9:24 AM July 29th, 2010 by James Pitkin

It’s one of the most sensitive and most personal of all the unanswered questions swirling around the case of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

If the suspicions of Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman, are true — he believes Kyron’s stepmom, Terri Moulton Horman, is behind the boy’s disappearance — then how does Kaine Horman feel about the fact that he brought her into the family?

And what does Kyron’s birth mother, Desiree Young, feel now about her ex-husband’s choice, as she works closely with him to learn what’s happened to Kyron?

We asked Kyron’s parents those questions in an interview earlier this week. We’re posting their answers below, or you can hear the audio clip here.

In a related note, both parents told WW they’re seeking counseling to deal with the emotional aftermath of Kyron’s disappearance.

WW: Kaine, people wonder if you feel badly for having brought Terri into the mix in the first place.

Kaine Horman: Every day.

How does that play out in your mind?

Kaine Horman: I feel responsible. I feel guilty. It’s my job to protect him, it’s my job to be there for him. I was there for him and someone got past and got him on my watch. I’m very upset about it, I’m very emotional about it. It’s not right. It shouldn’t have happened. We all trusted her. I feel partly responsible. I in a weird way, I almost wish that her plot that she originally put in place [allegedly, to hire a landscaper to kill Kaine] would have gone through, because he would still be here. So I live with that guilt every day, and you know what, I turn it around, and I [make] it into something positive to go help find him. … I’m not saying I feel directly responsible for it, but I feel really guilty about it. And I wish there was anything I could do to change places with him in any way, shape or form. My life to get him back, it doesn’t matter. I would do anything, I would give anything, and I always would. Up to this point I have always been there in that capacity. Anything bad that happens to him, I wish I could shoulder it for him, [that] I could take it away from him. I wish it would come to me instead of him. It just didn’t go that way this time, and I really wish it would have.

Desiree, do you have any thoughts about that?

Desiree Young: I think that all of us in this case that’s close to Kyron, all of us feel guilty to a certain degree about what it is that we’re going to feel guilty about. … I’ve been told by my counselor it’s very healthy and normal. It doesn’t feel normal, it doesn’t feel healthy, but you know, I feel guilty I wasn’t here to protect him. And that’s our job is to protect our son, and I feel like I failed in that.

Kaine Horman: I think that, you know, based on our history and everything that we’ve done, we have always done everything that we feel that we can do to do that for him, and limit the impact on the kids and really try hard to do everything we can to do what’s right for them. And up until this point I think we both felt, and I’ll speak for myself, but I think we both thought we were doing a pretty good job of that, and this happens, and I think we’re all – including Tony [Young, Desiree's husband] – I think we’re all just devastated, because we all worked so hard for them. And for us, we all get along, and that comes kind of naturally for us in this progression. But we go out of our way to make sure that they’re safe and taken care of and limit all this stuff. And to have this happen, I mean, we’re all just completely devastated by it.

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/29/kyron-horman-update-kaines-feelings-about-decision-to-marry-stepmom/
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Post by kiwimom on Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:48 pm

Ovie I've been wondering that too. Could she be anticipating winning defamation cases? As it stands at present officials keep saying she is not a person of interest or a suspect and if she is never charged or found guilty I would imagine she can sue Kaine, Desiree and many others for their damaging public statements.
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Post by TomTerrific0420 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:39 am

kiwimom wrote:
Ovie I've been wondering that too. Could she be anticipating winning defamation cases? As it stands at present officials keep saying she is not a person of interest or a suspect and if she is never charged or found guilty I would imagine she can sue Kaine, Desiree and many others for their damaging public statements.
---Keep in mind that the information/statements are basically coming from the LE Investigators. As somebody noted recently, it is almost as though they have become the un-official spokespersons on the case. Kind of like, ad-hoc public information officers,
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Post by kiwimom on Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:00 am

Thinking out loud - if TH planned to get rid of kyron, I've been wondering why she would do that after attempting to get rid of Kaine. Then I thought what if the plan to get rid of Kaine WAS STILL IN THE WORKS but the gardener was supposed to wait until after Kyron went missing? Maybe the gardener got cold feet after TH carried through with the first part of the plan - Kyron, and spilled the beans.
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Post by TomTerrific0420 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:01 am

kiwimom wrote:Thinking out loud - if TH planned to get rid of kyron, I've been wondering why she would do that after attempting to get rid of Kaine. Then I thought what if the plan to get rid of Kaine WAS STILL IN THE WORKS but the gardener was supposed to wait until after Kyron went missing? Maybe the gardener got cold feet after TH carried through with the first part of the plan - Kyron, and spilled the beans.
---Perhaps the reverse is true. The gardener hot cold feet on going through with the MFH scheme and so she cooked up Plan "B"-the disappearance and/or murder of Kyron. I still think, psychologically, that her teen son figures into this somehow.
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Post by alwaysbelieve on Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:55 am

TomTerrific0420 wrote:
kiwimom wrote:Thinking out loud - if TH planned to get rid of kyron, I've been wondering why she would do that after attempting to get rid of Kaine. Then I thought what if the plan to get rid of Kaine WAS STILL IN THE WORKS but the gardener was supposed to wait until after Kyron went missing? Maybe the gardener got cold feet after TH carried through with the first part of the plan - Kyron, and spilled the beans.
---Perhaps the reverse is true. The gardener hot cold feet on going through with the MFH scheme and so she cooked up Plan "B"-the disappearance and/or murder of Kyron. I still think, psychologically, that her teen son figures into this somehow.

(red by me) I think so too Tom. Can't quite figure out how yet tho'.
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Post by oviedo45 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:26 pm

TomTerrific0420 wrote:
kiwimom wrote:
Ovie I've been wondering that too. Could she be anticipating winning defamation cases? As it stands at present officials keep saying she is not a person of interest or a suspect and if she is never charged or found guilty I would imagine she can sue Kaine, Desiree and many others for their damaging public statements.
---Keep in mind that the information/statements are basically coming from the LE Investigators. As somebody noted recently, it is almost as though they have become the un-official spokespersons on the case. Kind of like, ad-hoc public information officers,

and this also protects the police dept - IMO I don't think TH will sue anyone right now, she doesn't even want to go to court to try to get visitation because she is afraid of being questioned - that's also why they are asking for the abatement, she doesn't want to have to go to court for anything, not custody, not divorce proceedings - but if she is asking for atty fees - she will need to go to court for that - so am not sure this is a consistent strategy -
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Post by oviedo45 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:28 pm

alwaysbelieve wrote:
TomTerrific0420 wrote:
kiwimom wrote:Thinking out loud - if TH planned to get rid of kyron, I've been wondering why she would do that after attempting to get rid of Kaine. Then I thought what if the plan to get rid of Kaine WAS STILL IN THE WORKS but the gardener was supposed to wait until after Kyron went missing? Maybe the gardener got cold feet after TH carried through with the first part of the plan - Kyron, and spilled the beans.
---Perhaps the reverse is true. The gardener hot cold feet on going through with the MFH scheme and so she cooked up Plan "B"-the disappearance and/or murder of Kyron. I still think, psychologically, that her teen son figures into this somehow.

(red by me) I think so too Tom. Can't quite figure out how yet tho'.

i have thought that as well - and why would terri's mom lie and say he was camping and out of town, when he was at the house - odd that we aren't hearing anything at all about his actions on friday.......
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Post by mom_in_il on Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:52 pm

Kyron's mother and father to speak Friday

by David Krough, kgw.com Staff

kgw.com

Posted on July 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Updated yesterday at 5:34 PM

Excerpt:

PORTLAND -- The mother and father of missing Portland seven-year-old Kyron Horman are once again pleading for help to find him with a news conference planned for Friday morning.

READ MORE: http://www.kgw.com/news/Reward-that-leads-to-Kyron-Horman-up-to-50000-99349594.html
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