"Toddler Jane Doe" - 4 yo/ Accused: John Shorez - Fenton MI

A Fenton Township man has been charged in a disturbing child abuse case.
35-year-old John Shorez is being held in the Genesee County Jail on
charges of 1st degree child abuse, a 15-year felony, in connection with
the incident that happened the day before Thanksgiving at a mobile home
park off Eastview Drive where the man lived with his girlfriend. The
alleged abuse was not discovered until Saturday, however, after a
neighbor called Child Protective Services to check on the girl’s
welfare. CPS workers and sheriff’s deputies found the girl with a black
eye, blisters on her feet and bruises on her body. Shorez is accused of
poking the 4-year-old girl in the eye with his finger 20 to 40 times and
blistering the girl’s feet by making her hold them above a space
heater. Police say the man was upset with the girl because she had
accidentally kicked his 1-year-old son in the eye and poked the girl in
the eye as punishment. The girl originally said the black eye came from a
fall but after Shorez was removed from the home, police say she told
investigators that she had been abused for about four hours. Shorez was
arrested and the girl was treated and released at an area hospital. She
is now in the care of relatives. Police say other children were home at
the time of the alleged abuse and it does not appear the girl’s mother
will be charged
http://whmi.com/news/article/13511

TomTerrific0420 wrote:A Fenton Township man has been charged in a disturbing child abuse case.
35-year-old John Shorez ...
.... not appear the girl’s mother
will be charged
http://whmi.com/news/article/13511

I just don't understand why these mothers are not arrested and charged.

Why didn't the mother report the abuse?

Why didn't she stop the abuse?

Why didn't she seek medical attention for her battered baby?

Why isn't she in jail?

Obviously this was not a one time occurrence since the little girl knew to lie about her injuries.

twinkletoes wrote:

TomTerrific0420 wrote:A Fenton Township man has been charged in a disturbing child abuse case.
35-year-old John Shorez ...
.... not appear the girl’s mother
will be charged
http://whmi.com/news/article/13511

I just don't understand why these mothers are not arrested and charged.

Why didn't the mother report the abuse?

Why didn't she stop the abuse?

Why didn't she seek medical attention for her battered baby?

Why isn't she in jail?

Obviously this was not a one time occurrence since the little girl knew to lie about her injuries.

I agree with you Twink. I just don't understand how a mother can stand by and watch her own baby be abused by big bad men. It's so sick. I'm surprised the nasty man didn't damage the little girl's eyes. I hope she recuperates and isn't sent back to her stupid mother. Sheesh!

Not all is as the media portrays, nor are the Police ALWAYS in the right! If you REALLY want to know the truth in THIS particular case, keep looking. This story is not it! It IS election year, and Genesee County MI has screwed up HARD in the past, and trying to use this case as a save all for their butts . . . it's really disgusting what CPS on the flip side is allowed to do to those that are NON DESERVING but FAIL where they are REALLY NEEDED MOST! This is no secret!

Zamyia

Welcome and thank you for your post but can you give us some facts or a link to another story about this case? Law enforcement doesn't press harsh charges without good evidence so if you know something, then why don't you tell us?

Although I know CPS screws up all the time, ultimately, parents are responsible for their children. What is CPS or the police supposed to do about parents that are abusing their children and hiding it. If parents and especially mothers who care more about their boyfriends would quit hurting their babies then abuse would stop.

Are you saying that the child is lying? Speak up.

Zamyia wrote:Not all is as the media portrays, nor are the Police ALWAYS in the right! If you REALLY want to know the truth in THIS particular case, keep looking. This story is not it! It IS election year, and Genesee County MI has screwed up HARD in the past, and trying to use this case as a save all for their butts . . . it's really disgusting what CPS on the flip side is allowed to do to those that are NON DESERVING but FAIL where they are REALLY NEEDED MOST! This is no secret!

It's a secret from me. Where would you have us look? Why do you want us to search instead of posting the information you imply you have.

Welcome to our blog. Please share your information with us.

I really have a hard time believing that a child of her age could fabricate stories of this detail. When children of this age lie it is caught stealing a cookie from the table or keeping a toy from a sibling. However, I will reserve judgement for the courts.

A child of this age might lie if their parents tell them to do so. However, they will not continue to lie when questioned. That's why she told them how she got her black eyes.

FENTON TOWNSHIP, Michigan -- The 35-year-old Fenton Township man accused of poking a little girl in the eye 20 to 40 times and holding her feet over a space heater has been sentenced to 20 months to 4 years in prison, according to court records.

John Shorez pleaded no contest to second degree child abuse last month. He was originally charged in December with first degree child abuse.

At the time of the charges, Genesee County Sheriff Robert Pickell likened the act to torture. Authorities said Shorez started the abuse after the girl, 4, accidentally hit his son in the eye.

The man is the boyfriend of the girl’s older sister, who is in her 20s.The incident occurred the day before Thanksgiving at a mobile home park off Eastview Drive.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2012/02/35-year-old_fenton_township_ma.html

Zamyia wrote:Not all is as the media portrays, nor are the Police ALWAYS in the right! If you REALLY want to know the truth in THIS particular case, keep looking. This story is not it! It IS election year, and Genesee County MI has screwed up HARD in the past, and trying to use this case as a save all for their butts . . . it's really disgusting what CPS on the flip side is allowed to do to those that are NON DESERVING but FAIL where they are REALLY NEEDED MOST! This is no secret!

Any new thoughts now that he has pleaded guilty?

twinkletoes wrote:Any new thoughts now that he has pleaded guilty?

He pled no contest, which is not a guilty plea. There are other mitigating factors that were not released to the media in this case, especially those involving the family dynamic. You can't always believe what is reported by the media.

I used this case (as well as four other child neglect/abuse cases) as an argument in my dissertation for my Ph.D. because of the skewed point of view portrayed by the media, the pitbull tactics used by law enforcement and FIA, and lack of social services available to the families involved prior to the incident. I wish I had found this forum to include in my thesis, as it supports my argument of how quickly people are to judge when there is alleged child abuse involved.

ChildPsych101 wrote:

twinkletoes wrote:Any new thoughts now that he has pleaded guilty?

He pled no contest, which is not a guilty plea. There are other mitigating factors that were not released to the media in this case, especially those involving the family dynamic. You can't always believe what is reported by the media.

I used this case (as well as four other child neglect/abuse cases) as an argument in my dissertation for my Ph.D. because of the skewed point of view portrayed by the media, the pitbull tactics used by law enforcement and FIA, and lack of social services available to the families involved prior to the incident. I wish I had found this forum to include in my thesis, as it supports my argument of how quickly people are to judge when there is alleged child abuse involved.

First of all if he wasn't guilty why didn't he plead NOT GUILTY? Secondly, why don't you share the information you obtained about this case to show us how the media skewed the horrible abuse that this poor child went through? I'm sure others here would be interested in reading it as well. I realize that the media doesn't always include all the information on cases, but when you read about torture and abuse against children, there is just no excuse anyone can come up with to justify hurting or killing a defenseless baby.

babyjustice wrote:

ChildPsych101 wrote:

twinkletoes wrote:Any new thoughts now that he has pleaded guilty?

He pled no contest, which is not a guilty plea. There are other mitigating factors that were not released to the media in this case, especially those involving the family dynamic. You can't always believe what is reported by the media.

I used this case (as well as four other child neglect/abuse cases) as an argument in my dissertation for my Ph.D. because of the skewed point of view portrayed by the media, the pitbull tactics used by law enforcement and FIA, and lack of social services available to the families involved prior to the incident. I wish I had found this forum to include in my thesis, as it supports my argument of how quickly people are to judge when there is alleged child abuse involved.

First of all if he wasn't guilty why didn't he plead NOT GUILTY? Secondly, why don't you share the information you obtained about this case to show us how the media skewed the horrible abuse that this poor child went through? I'm sure others here would be interested in reading it as well. I realize that the media doesn't always include all the information on cases, but when you read about torture and abuse against children, there is just no excuse anyone can come up with to justify hurting or killing a defenseless baby.

Google what a no contest plea means in regards to guilty/not guilty pleas. I live and work in the area that this event occurred in and some of the information not released is a matter of medical record, therefore confidential. As I said, there are details of the family dynamic that contributed to extenuating circumstances that took the slam dunk away from the prosecutors, lending the opportunity for a no contest plea.

You want answers about the "horrible abuse" this child endured; everyone wants answers. What is known: FIA received a phoned-in "tip" and showed up three days after the alleged abuse and she was treated and released from the ER the same day. The "numerous bruises covering her body" were caused by being a four-year old with anemia (which was noted in the FIA report.) The rest is open for interpretation and media spin. You want to talk about horrible abuse, look up the case of four-year old Dominick Calhoun in Michigan who died on April 8, 2010 from his injuries. The four days of torture that child had to endure was horrible, not to mention his older brother bore witness to it all. That case prompted Dominick's Law to be passed on June 26, 2012, which will enforce harsher penalties in first-degree and second-degree child abuse cases and there are other states that are looking to follow Michigan's lead.

If you want the particulars of the court case, it's public record. Other than that, you can continue to crucify this man wherever your imagination takes you. On a side note: this case and the Dominick Calhoun case were both tried in Genesee County, and it took them two years to prosecute Dominick's abuser and his mother, but only a couple of months to prosecute this man. Genesee County was using this case to make up for all of the missteps made in Dominick's cases. As I said in my earlier post, I wish I had found this forum for my dissertation because it proves my theory that where children are concerned, many people put on the blinders and are ready to hang the accused before finding out more details. One point I agree with you on is there is no justification in harming or killing a defenseless child. I have been awarded my Ph.D. in clinical child psychology and plan to make it my goal to find out as much as I can about my young patients before I dismiss something that could potentially cause them harm in the end. After pouring 8 months of my life into my dissertation, this post piqued my interest.

this still did not answer the question about the eye poking incident. why would a 4 year old make up such a story. also no contest means there was enough evidence to convict and he knew it. also trying to muddy the waters with other cases doesnt set too well.

ChildPsych101 wrote:

twinkletoes wrote:Any new thoughts now that he has pleaded guilty?

He pled no contest, which is not a guilty plea. There are other mitigating factors that were not released to the media in this case, especially those involving the family dynamic. You can't always believe what is reported by the media.

I used this case (as well as four other child neglect/abuse cases) as an argument in my dissertation for my Ph.D. because of the skewed point of view portrayed by the media, the pitbull tactics used by law enforcement and FIA, and lack of social services available to the families involved prior to the incident. I wish I had found this forum to include in my thesis, as it supports my argument of how quickly people are to judge when there is alleged child abuse involved.

Isn't it amazing how you don't want people to jump to conclusions, yet you registered on August 5th, 2012 (today) to tell us how quickly WE jump to conclusions? Isn't that YOU jumping to conclusions about us? What degree was that again? That's scarcasm. You may chart my affect as being sarcastic.

You also added that "The "numerous bruises covering her body" were caused by being a four-year old with anemia (which was noted in the FIA report.)" Anemia, alone, does NOT cause bruises. Anemia can be the result from bruising (or other conditions), but not the direct cause of bruising unless there is an underlying bleeding disorder or trauma that occurred.

Now, how exactly do you presume to know what we believe or don't believe when you don't even know us? You would have been welcomed with open arms if you had knocked softly before charging through the door like an injured bull out for revenge.

thank u inmyfloridaopinion. u understood what i was getting at. but my words fell far too short.

flash0115 wrote:thank u inmyfloridaopinion. u understood what i was getting at. but my words fell far too short.

I know that when people come charging in, they usually are trying to start something or prove something to themselves (and occasionally they turn out to be some of our favorite members with true zeal). We know by now where your heart is and what you meant and we truly appreciate all your efforts here.

thank for ur kind words-they mean alot.

ChildPsych101 wrote:

babyjustice wrote:

ChildPsych101 wrote:

twinkletoes wrote:Any new thoughts now that he has pleaded guilty?

He pled no contest, which is not a guilty plea. There are other mitigating factors that were not released to the media in this case, especially those involving the family dynamic. You can't always believe what is reported by the media.

I used this case (as well as four other child neglect/abuse cases) as an argument in my dissertation for my Ph.D. because of the skewed point of view portrayed by the media, the pitbull tactics used by law enforcement and FIA, and lack of social services available to the families involved prior to the incident. I wish I had found this forum to include in my thesis, as it supports my argument of how quickly people are to judge when there is alleged child abuse involved.

First of all if he wasn't guilty why didn't he plead NOT GUILTY? Secondly, why don't you share the information you obtained about this case to show us how the media skewed the horrible abuse that this poor child went through? I'm sure others here would be interested in reading it as well. I realize that the media doesn't always include all the information on cases, but when you read about torture and abuse against children, there is just no excuse anyone can come up with to justify hurting or killing a defenseless baby.

Google what a no contest plea means in regards to guilty/not guilty pleas. I live and work in the area that this event occurred in and some of the information not released is a matter of medical record, therefore confidential. As I said, there are details of the family dynamic that contributed to extenuating circumstances that took the slam dunk away from the prosecutors, lending the opportunity for a no contest plea.

You want answers about the "horrible abuse" this child endured; everyone wants answers. What is known: FIA received a phoned-in "tip" and showed up three days after the alleged abuse and she was treated and released from the ER the same day. The "numerous bruises covering her body" were caused by being a four-year old with anemia (which was noted in the FIA report.) The rest is open for interpretation and media spin. You want to talk about horrible abuse, look up the case of four-year old Dominick Calhoun in Michigan who died on April 8, 2010 from his injuries. The four days of torture that child had to endure was horrible, not to mention his older brother bore witness to it all. That case prompted Dominick's Law to be passed on June 26, 2012, which will enforce harsher penalties in first-degree and second-degree child abuse cases and there are other states that are looking to follow Michigan's lead.

If you want the particulars of the court case, it's public record. Other than that, you can continue to crucify this man wherever your imagination takes you. On a side note: this case and the Dominick Calhoun case were both tried in Genesee County, and it took them two years to prosecute Dominick's abuser and his mother, but only a couple of months to prosecute this man. Genesee County was using this case to make up for all of the missteps made in Dominick's cases. As I said in my earlier post, I wish I had found this forum for my dissertation because it proves my theory that where children are concerned, many people put on the blinders and are ready to hang the accused before finding out more details. One point I agree with you on is there is no justification in harming or killing a defenseless child. I have been awarded my Ph.D. in clinical child psychology and plan to make it my goal to find out as much as I can about my young patients before I dismiss something that could potentially cause them harm in the end. After pouring 8 months of my life into my dissertation, this post piqued my interest.

I did look up no contest and know what it means. My point is if the guy was not guilty, then that's what he should have plead. I am also well aware of that horrific case about poor Dominick and I'm glad to hear that your county is finally getting tough with child abusers. I'm sorry but this baby had burns on the bottom of her feet, bruises and a black eye. The abuser was mad cause this child hurt his and he retaliated in anger. I find it very odd that a CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST would come on here and defend the abuser expecially one who didn't even plead not guitly. Why aren't you supporting the child?

Lastly are you the same person as Zamyia or related to her/him? You sure sound the same as that person did when they posted.

flash0115 wrote:this still did not answer the question about the eye poking incident. why would a 4 year old make up such a story. also no contest means there was enough evidence to convict and he knew it. also trying to muddy the waters with other cases doesnt set too well.

In criminal law, a defendant's plea in court that he/she will not contest the charge of a particular crime, also called nolo contendere. While technically not an admission of guilt for commission of the crime, the judge will treat a plea of "no contest" as such an admission and proceed to find the defendant guilty as charged. A "no contest" plea is often made in cases in which there is also a possible lawsuit for damages by a person injured by the criminal conduct (such as reckless driving, assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated assault), because it cannot be used in the civil lawsuit as an admission of fault. "No contest" is also used where there has been a "plea bargain" in which the defendant does not want to say he/she is guilty but accepts the sentence recommended by the prosecutor in exchange for not contesting the charge (which is often reduced to a lesser crime). It is standard practice for the judge to ask either the attorneys or the defendant, "Is there a factual basis for the plea?" before accepting it and finding the defendant guilty. - Courtesy of Dictionary.law.com

I am NOT muddying any waters by mentioning the very case that put the pressure on Genesee County to wipe that very mud from their faces because they failed so miserably in the past by going after this man. I stated what was known in my last post, and as far as the alleged eye poking incident, it's a shame the story never stayed the same.

ur accusations of this child is appalling. please do not respond to my posts anymore. u missed class or wasnt listening when ethics was taught. also, we have followd dominkck's case quist closely if u bother to check.

babyjustice wrote:

ChildPsych101 wrote:

babyjustice wrote:

ChildPsych101 wrote:

twinkletoes wrote:Any new thoughts now that he has pleaded guilty?

He pled no contest, which is not a guilty plea. There are other mitigating factors that were not released to the media in this case, especially those involving the family dynamic. You can't always believe what is reported by the media.

I used this case (as well as four other child neglect/abuse cases) as an argument in my dissertation for my Ph.D. because of the skewed point of view portrayed by the media, the pitbull tactics used by law enforcement and FIA, and lack of social services available to the families involved prior to the incident. I wish I had found this forum to include in my thesis, as it supports my argument of how quickly people are to judge when there is alleged child abuse involved.

First of all if he wasn't guilty why didn't he plead NOT GUILTY? Secondly, why don't you share the information you obtained about this case to show us how the media skewed the horrible abuse that this poor child went through? I'm sure others here would be interested in reading it as well. I realize that the media doesn't always include all the information on cases, but when you read about torture and abuse against children, there is just no excuse anyone can come up with to justify hurting or killing a defenseless baby.

Google what a no contest plea means in regards to guilty/not guilty pleas. I live and work in the area that this event occurred in and some of the information not released is a matter of medical record, therefore confidential. As I said, there are details of the family dynamic that contributed to extenuating circumstances that took the slam dunk away from the prosecutors, lending the opportunity for a no contest plea.

You want answers about the "horrible abuse" this child endured; everyone wants answers. What is known: FIA received a phoned-in "tip" and showed up three days after the alleged abuse and she was treated and released from the ER the same day. The "numerous bruises covering her body" were caused by being a four-year old with anemia (which was noted in the FIA report.) The rest is open for interpretation and media spin. You want to talk about horrible abuse, look up the case of four-year old Dominick Calhoun in Michigan who died on April 8, 2010 from his injuries. The four days of torture that child had to endure was horrible, not to mention his older brother bore witness to it all. That case prompted Dominick's Law to be passed on June 26, 2012, which will enforce harsher penalties in first-degree and second-degree child abuse cases and there are other states that are looking to follow Michigan's lead.

If you want the particulars of the court case, it's public record. Other than that, you can continue to crucify this man wherever your imagination takes you. On a side note: this case and the Dominick Calhoun case were both tried in Genesee County, and it took them two years to prosecute Dominick's abuser and his mother, but only a couple of months to prosecute this man. Genesee County was using this case to make up for all of the missteps made in Dominick's cases. As I said in my earlier post, I wish I had found this forum for my dissertation because it proves my theory that where children are concerned, many people put on the blinders and are ready to hang the accused before finding out more details. One point I agree with you on is there is no justification in harming or killing a defenseless child. I have been awarded my Ph.D. in clinical child psychology and plan to make it my goal to find out as much as I can about my young patients before I dismiss something that could potentially cause them harm in the end. After pouring 8 months of my life into my dissertation, this post piqued my interest.

I did look up no contest and know what it means. My point is if the guy was not guilty, then that's what he should have plead. I am also well aware of that horrific case about poor Dominick and I'm glad to hear that your county is finally getting tough with child abusers. I'm sorry but this baby had burns on the bottom of her feet, bruises and a black eye. The abuser was mad cause this child hurt his and he retaliated in anger. I find it very odd that a CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST would come on here and defend the abuser expecially one who didn't even plead not guitly. Why aren't you supporting the child?

Lastly are you the same person as Zamyia or related to her/him? You sure sound the same as that person did when they posted.

I do not reside in Genesee County but in neighboring Oakland County, and have been in this area my entire life. I was a avid supporter in getting Dominick's Law passed. To insinuate that I don't care about this child's welfare is premature and unwarranted. In my insomnia, I stumbled across this forum on the case. Even prior to my pursuit of my doctorate, I have always been interested in both sides of the story, thriving to put the child's interests first. In this case, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, there is more to the family dynamic that has been made public and therefore puts a lot of holes in many theories. And I can say that honestly and unequivocally since I did have some outside involvement. Beyond that, I can't and won't say anything more; I do stand by my morals and professional code of ethics. And no, I am not Zamyia nor do I know who they are.

One thing I do find offensive is challenging my profession. I spent six years as a social worker for CPS, two years as an ER counselor in domestic abuse cases and have seen things that I still can't wrap my head around. And to date, I volunteer at a shelter for abused women in domestic situations. I work with children primarily, but also do family counseling in situations where there are accusations coming from the child. Everyone seems to think that young kids could never dream up such outrageous lies. I've been told those outrageous lies by three, four, five year old children that could have caused legal repercussions for the targets of their lies. As much as ALL OF US want to protect the innocence of children, fact of the matter is not all children are innocent and have malicious intent a lot sooner that many would think.

Truth be told, I have no reason to defend myself to anyone. I am not looking for a ticker tape parade or to be "welcomed with open arms" as I am not seeking attention. It is an open forum where people are allowed to voice their opinions in a respectful manner, which I have done. I was not singling anyone out with my broad observations but apparently they hit a raw nerve or two.

Question me as much as you'd like; I have nothing to prove nor do I owe any explanations for my opinions and observations. Like I said, I stumbled here during a bout of insomnia and was interested because of my dissertation. But now the borderline rude interrogation is getting tiresome. One thing I'm not is a zealot; I'll leave that to other more impassioned members that post with much aplomb and "zeal".

flash0115 wrote:ur accusations of this child is appalling. please do not respond to my posts anymore. u missed class or wasnt listening when ethics was taught. also, we have followd dominkck's case quist closely if u bother to check.

I have not accused this child of anything. Your interrogation of my opinion and facts of the case that I can offer has been rude and offensive. And given my involvement in getting Dominick's Law passed for the ENTIRE STATE OF MICHIGAN, I would likely be appalled at many of the opinions of others, just as I am with your opinion of this case.

Do not interrogate me any further. If you don't like the answers, don't ask the questions.

ChildPsych101 wrote:

babyjustice wrote:

ChildPsych101 wrote:

twinkletoes wrote:Any new thoughts now that he has pleaded guilty?

He pled no contest, which is not a guilty plea. There are other mitigating factors that were not released to the media in this case, especially those involving the family dynamic. You can't always believe what is reported by the media.

I used this case (as well as four other child neglect/abuse cases) as an argument in my dissertation for my Ph.D. because of the skewed point of view portrayed by the media, the pitbull tactics used by law enforcement and FIA, and lack of social services available to the families involved prior to the incident. I wish I had found this forum to include in my thesis, as it supports my argument of how quickly people are to judge when there is alleged child abuse involved.

First of all if he wasn't guilty why didn't he plead NOT GUILTY? Secondly, why don't you share the information you obtained about this case to show us how the media skewed the horrible abuse that this poor child went through? I'm sure others here would be interested in reading it as well. I realize that the media doesn't always include all the information on cases, but when you read about torture and abuse against children, there is just no excuse anyone can come up with to justify hurting or killing a defenseless baby.

Google what a no contest plea means in regards to guilty/not guilty pleas. I live and work in the area that this event occurred in and some of the information not released is a matter of medical record, therefore confidential. As I said, there are details of the family dynamic that contributed to extenuating circumstances that took the slam dunk away from the prosecutors, lending the opportunity for a no contest plea.

You want answers about the "horrible abuse" this child endured; everyone wants answers. What is known: FIA received a phoned-in "tip" and showed up three days after the alleged abuse and she was treated and released from the ER the same day. The "numerous bruises covering her body" were caused by being a four-year old with anemia (which was noted in the FIA report.) The rest is open for interpretation and media spin. You want to talk about horrible abuse, look up the case of four-year old Dominick Calhoun in Michigan who died on April 8, 2010 from his injuries. The four days of torture that child had to endure was horrible, not to mention his older brother bore witness to it all. That case prompted Dominick's Law to be passed on June 26, 2012, which will enforce harsher penalties in first-degree and second-degree child abuse cases and there are other states that are looking to follow Michigan's lead.

If you want the particulars of the court case, it's public record. Other than that, you can continue to crucify this man wherever your imagination takes you. On a side note: this case and the Dominick Calhoun case were both tried in Genesee County, and it took them two years to prosecute Dominick's abuser and his mother, but only a couple of months to prosecute this man. Genesee County was using this case to make up for all of the missteps made in Dominick's cases. As I said in my earlier post, I wish I had found this forum for my dissertation because it proves my theory that where children are concerned, many people put on the blinders and are ready to hang the accused before finding out more details. One point I agree with you on is there is no justification in harming or killing a defenseless child. I have been awarded my Ph.D. in clinical child psychology and plan to make it my goal to find out as much as I can about my young patients before I dismiss something that could potentially cause them harm in the end. After pouring 8 months of my life into my dissertation, this post piqued my interest.

Oh please, no member of this forum just fell off the turnip truck. Do you seriously think we don't know what nolo contendere means?

I find it offensive that you defend a child abuser and claim to have some secret knowledge of the case. If you knew more you would have posted it.

This brute's sentence is also offensive. He should have been sentenced to a much harsher sentence. I'm sure that was the consideration the state gave in order to avoid the costs of a trial. This in no way absolves him of his crime. It means times are tight and even the justice system much keep costs down.

You are not the only person on this forum with multiple degrees. I've never found it necessary to brag about mine, nor have others.

We all consider ourselves equals in our pursuit of justice for murdered, missing and abused children.

ChildPsych101 wrote:

flash0115 wrote:ur accusations of this child is appalling. please do not respond to my posts anymore. u missed class or wasnt listening when ethics was taught. also, we have followd dominkck's case quist closely if u bother to check.

I have not accused this child of anything. Your interrogation of my opinion and facts of the case that I can offer has been rude and offensive. And given my involvement in getting Dominick's Law passed for the ENTIRE STATE OF MICHIGAN, I would likely be appalled at many of the opinions of others, just as I am with your opinion of this case.

Do not interrogate me any further. If you don't like the answers, don't ask the questions.

No one has interrogated you. You claim to know things yet you don't post them. Then you condemn others for having an opinion you do not like. Your bragging about yourself is getting a bit old.

We don't like child abusers. We don't like people who make excuses for child abusers. The purpose of this forum is to seek justice for these children and not surprisingly your claim to secret knowledge and unknown facts with no proof doesn't sit well with me.

Please note, I have not interrogated you nor even asked you a question.