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Post by Verogal on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:44 am

babyjustice wrote:Thanks Verogal for the updates. Sounds to me like the attorneys for the parents are trying to take the attention of them but fabricating stories. So sad that those parents won't cooperate. It makes them look guilty as h@ll.

I totally agree! I feel a Kronk coming on...imo..after the dt last emergency (fri) breaking news on Fox w/ MK saying that Jersey would do it for $300...and, was just another red herring...along with wild bill saying HE knew nothing about it...and, DB other attorney is on vacation! Makes me want to scream...THEY are so doing the Bozo defense here...imo...just creating mud, stirring, and all ready pandering to a jury with reasonable doubt...thus far NOT one of their stories thrown out there have amounted to a hill of beans...and, yet, imo all rounds come back to "mommy"...and, she is the ONLY person not pretty much moved on from by LE.
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:46 am

I promised I would NOT get sucked into another missing childs case too...grrrrrrr...but, sadly, very little news on BL anymore...and, won't be much unless something breaks soon sadly.
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:47 am

Baby Lisa: New police chief, investigative reporter, citizens make a difference

KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Isabelle Zehnder reporting) -- The case of missing Missouri baby Lisa Irwin is one that continues to baffle people around the world and one that people want solved yesterday – so can the new Kansas City Chief of Police, an investigative reporter, and citizens make a difference in the outcome of this case?

At the helm of Baby Lisa’s case are Kansas City Police, including new Chief of Police, Darryl Forte, the FBI, and other agencies assisting.

At the heart of Baby Lisa’s case are people on the ground in KC, talking with the locals, following up on tips, and providing valuable information to police.

Chief of Police

Upon being sworn in as Kansas City Chief of Police last month, Darryl Forte was thrown into the missing baby case, a case that has garnered national and international attention. Within weeks he found himself at a crime scene where one of his childhood friends was found murdered. It’s been a rough start but he said he’s up for the challenge.








“If I thought it was too complex, I would have never become chief,” Forte told KMBC News Saturday. "I would never take on anything that I thought we would fail in. I know, with community involvement, we can make a difference."

Investigative reporter Russ Ptacek

On the ground working diligently to find answers is KSHB NBC Action News Investigative Reporter Russ Ptacek who has been taken off other stories to cover the Baby Lisa case.

Impressive, and something that’s not seen in most missing persons’ cases. Follow KSHB’s local news coverage on their “Looking for Lisa Irwin” page.

Missing children’s team leader, Gil Abeyta

Gil Abeyta traveled a thousand miles from Colorado to KC to bring his 25 years of experience in helping families find their missing children to the table in an effort to help find Baby Lisa. During his month-long stay Abeyta spoke to countless locals, including potential witnesses, family members, lawyers, the police, and the FBI.

Abeyta had one short meeting with Baby Lisa’s family and said that of all the families of missing children he's worked with over the past 25 years he had never encountered a situation like this, he had never encountered parents who were virtually silenced. Before finally being allowed in the door he was told the family had been ‘ordered’ not to speak to anyone. He was baffled.

Following numerous interviews and research he and his team put together a potential suspect profile that was provided to the FBI and KCPD. It is his hope, and the hope of his team, that authorities will continue to follow up on the report, following the person profiled to determine if he was in any way involved in the baby’s disappearance.

Reaching out to the public

Police today and historically have reached out to the public when a person goes missing or when a crime is committed.

They know it’s the public, the locals, who are their eyes and ears and who can provide valuable information that helps them to solve their cases.

Added to the mix are online websleuthers who dig deep for information and have, at times, offered valuable tips to law enforcement.

Rumor and speculation versus hard tips and leads

The case of missing Baby Lisa has taken so many twists and turns that people have a tough time keeping up. As in other missing persons’ cases that aren’t quickly solved, rumors begin to evolve and take lives of their own. Eventually people have a tough time distinguishing fact from rumor. It’s a problem seen time and time again.

Numerous law enforcement officials across the country have said, over the past couple of years, that technology and social networking sites have proven to be a double-edged sword.

While they can on the one hand be very helpful, they can also take up valuable time and resources following up on what turn out to be nothing more than rumors or speculation rather than hard tips or leads. This, they say, includes psychic tips that have led them nowhere [Marc Klaas and Inside Edition reports.]

They say their job is made more difficult with the fact that some rumors can at times direct police to something more substantial so they cannot be ignored.

Staying focused on the task at hand

It is vital to remain focused with the task at hand - finding the missing person, in this case the missing baby. Whether alive or dead, time is critical as was just seen in the Casey Anthony case.

If the child is alive then the faster they are recovered and brought home to their families, the better. If the child is deceased, the longer time passes the more difficult it is to prove who was involved in or responsible for the child’s disappearance.

It also gives the perpetrator more time to move and dispose of the body in a way that would make it near to impossible to find.

On the ground working to help find Baby Lisa

National reporters packed up and left town when the attorney representing Baby Lisa’s family, Joe Tacopina, announced that neither he nor the family would give any further interviews unless there was a break in the case.

Left now to report on Baby Lisa’s case are locals and a few national media outlets willing to continue following and covering her day-to-day story until there is a major break in the case.

It is hoped that police will benefit from the dedicated work of local investigative reporter, Russ Ptacek, Gil Abeyta, and others who provide assistance to police in the search for answers in missing Baby Lisa’s case since sadly, her parents – with the support of their legal defense team - continue to refuse to cooperate with police.

More on Lisa's story:


Continue reading on Examiner.com Baby Lisa: New police chief, investigative reporter, citizens make a difference - National missing persons | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/baby-lisa-new-police-chief-investigative-reporter-citizens-make-a-difference#ixzz1ePVL0IZY
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:56 am

OP comment...so Sad...but, had been rumored for awhile now

Kansas City police disband command post in Lisa Irwin case


By CHRISTINE VENDEL

The Kansas City Star




Kansas City police have shut down the command post where investigators had been working exclusively on the Lisa Irwin case.

Detectives and FBI agents who had been working as a task force out of a room at Kansas City’s police training academy now are back in their usual offices, police said Tuesday. Police said the move reflected a necessary shift in resources as leads in the case have slowed and other crime cases have piled up.

For more than six weeks, a large group of detectives from the Crimes against Children unit had been focusing solely on finding Lisa Irwin, who was 10 months old when she disappeared Oct. 4 from her home on North Lister Avenue.

But that put a strain on the detectives left in the unit to investigate all the city’s other reported child abuse, sex abuse and neglect cases, police said. The other cases and victims were suffering from the lack of available investigators, police said.

A core of seven or eight detectives will remain assigned to the baby Lisa case, police said, but the detectives now also will take on other cases from their respective units. FBI agents also will continue to work with police at the same level as before, police said.

If new leads develop, police said they can call upon other detectives from other units who previously have assisted in the case.

“The people who are working this are not going to let this go,” Capt. Steve Young said. “But we have other cases and other victims.”





Posted on Tue, Nov. 22, 2011 11:13 PM


Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/22/3281893/kc-police-disband-baby-lisa-command.html#ixzz1eWMZsGjg
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:58 am

I am so afraid IF and when Baby Lisa is found...like the KC case there will be no evidence left...and, NO justice once again...so tired of this.
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by mom_in_il on Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:10 pm

KCPD Shuts Down Baby Lisa Command Center
Lisa Irwin Disappeared From Parents' Home In Early October

POSTED: 8:23 am CST November 23, 2011
UPDATED: 8:40 am CST November 23, 2011

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Kansas City police said they have shut down the command post in the case of missing 1-year-old Lisa Irwin.

Police Capt. Steve Young said that the case is still open, but detectives and FBI agents who had been working as a task force out of the police training academy are now back in their own offices.

Young said that the investigation has slowed to a point that detectives no longer need a command post.

The baby was reported missing from her parents' home in the 3600 block of North Lister Avenue on Oct. 4.

The New York attorney for Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, Joe Tacopina, said the couple has repeatedly cooperated with investigators, but said he will not allow his clients to be interrogated by police.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29842449/detail.html#ixzz1eXdVBbfo
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Annabeth on Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:22 pm

Here we go AGAIN another cold case and she may never be found like Haleigh, Trenton, Gabriel AND so many others....I am SICK of this
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by TomTerrific0420 on Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:59 pm

Leads in the case of a missing Kansas City baby have slowed to a
trickle, prompting police to close a command post where about a dozen
investigators have been working on the case since the child disappeared
seven weeks ago.
Police insist they haven't given up on finding
Lisa Irwin, who was 10 months old when her parents reported her missing
Oct. 4. But with little new information coming in and more than 200
cases being handled by the police department's Crimes Against Children
unit, it didn't make sense to keep so many federal and local agents
solely dedicated to the case and outside their normal offices, spokesman
Capt. Steve Young said.
"There is still work being done on the
case," Young said Wednesday. "It's not to say there has been neglect on
the other cases, but there has been a heavy workload for detectives who
weren't assigned to the command post ... This will get things more back
to normal."
Investigators said they've cleared nearly all of the
more than 1,300 tips that have come in since Lisa Irwin's parents told
police they believed their daughter was snatched from her crib overnight
by an intruder. Despite an extensive search of the family's home,
neighborhood, nearby woods and landfills, police have found no solid
leads or suspects.
Ernie Allen, president of the National Center
for Missing and Exploited Children, stressed that closing the command
post does not mean it's time for the community to give up hope that Lisa
will be found.
"In these longer-term cases where a child is not
found quickly, you simply don't have enough for people to do," he said.
"You can't maintain a command post and that level of staffing
indefinitely. The fields have been searched, interviews conducted, the
intense immediate response to the child's disappearance has happened.
The challenge now is to make sure the public doesn't forget."
Allen said he's sure someone knows what happened to the baby and urged them to contact authorities.
"While
we know time is the enemy and rapid response is the single most
important thing that needs to happen, that has led many to believe that
if you don't find a child quickly, there is no hope," he said. "That's
just not true."
The child was reported missing just after 4 a.m.,
when her father came home from a rare late shift at work and found his
home's lights were on, a window was ajar and the front door was
unlocked. Lisa's parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, said they
think a stranger broke into their house and kidnapped their daughter as
Bradley slept.
An Amber Alert issued that day sparked a frantic
search by hundreds of Kansas City police officers and FBI agents.
Investigators knocked on neighbors' doors, mounted shoulder-to-shoulder
searches of wooded areas near the home, combed through landfills and
made pleas through the media.
A New York-based security consultant
later announced that anonymous donors were offering a $100,000 reward
for Lisa's return or information leading to the conviction of anyone
involved in her disappearance.
Bradley has told reporters she was
being treated as a suspect, saying police told her she'd failed a
polygraph test, but she insists she doesn't know what happened to her
daughter.
Bradley's story about the night Lisa went missing has
changed a few times, most notably her early claims that she last checked
on Lisa around 10:30 p.m. on Oct. 3. She later acknowledged spending
the evening getting drunk on boxed wine with a neighbor and last seeing
her daughter when she put her to bed around 6:30 p.m.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/nov/26/us-kansas-city-baby-missing/
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:12 am

SO freaking sad!!! Jim Spellman tweeted today that he is off the case for now unless something breaks...won't be back to KC this week like planned and is leaving tomorrow for CNN London!

This case is really dying away :( And, NO baby Lisa and mommy and daddy are staying zip!
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:17 am

(Baby Lisa is Now listed on the website for National Center for Missing and Exploited Children:And, Here is the official Poster from the site (link) PLEASE look...thanks...Interesting that the poster DOES NOT state Kidnapped...IMO...OP comment)

Lisa Irwin is reported as Endangered Missing

Endangered Missing
LISA IRWIN




DOB:
Nov 11, 2010
Missing:
Oct 4, 2011


Age Now:


1

Sex:
Female


Race:
White


Hair:
Blonde
Eyes:
Blue
Height:
2'6" (76 cm)
Weight:
30 lbs (14 kg)
Missing From:
KANSAS CITY

MO

United States
















Both photos shown are of Lisa. She was
last seen at home on October 4, 2011 at approximately 4:00 a.m. Lisa
has a birthmark on her right thigh. She was last known to be wearing
purple pants and a purple shirt with kittens on it.


ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
1-800-843-5678 (1-800-THE-LOST)

Kansas City Police Department (Missouri) 1-816-474-8477





http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=1180911&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:22 am

Custody Battle for Jeremy Irwin’s Son Moves Forward

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Picerno says he questions why Raim is making the move now for custody after all these years. Still, a judge has the final say on December 7th in a Clay County courtroom.

http://fox4kc.com/2011/11/28/custody-battle-for-jeremy-irwins-son-moves-forward/
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Post by babyjustice on Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:39 pm

Verogal wrote:Custody Battle for Jeremy Irwin’s Son Moves Forward

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Picerno says he questions why Raim is making the move now for custody after all these years. Still, a judge has the final say on December 7th in a Clay County courtroom.

http://fox4kc.com/2011/11/28/custody-battle-for-jeremy-irwins-son-moves-forward/

Maybe the father is trying to get custody because he fears for the safety of his son because the mother admittedly is a drunk! She got drunk and has no clue what happened the night Lisa went missing...at least that's her story. Is this guy the father of both sons or just one of them?

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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:38 am

Hi BabyJustice! It is the MOTHER of the oldest boy that is trying to regain custody ( there was a hearing today...will be posting about it)...lots of news on that today. NO JI is the father of the oldest boy...Debbie and HER STILL husband are bio parents of the youngest boy...Debbie and JI are the bio parents of baby Lisa.

It is a very blended family....and, some rumors floating about paternity of baby Lisa also? It IS confusing eh?! :)
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Post by Verogal on Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:40 am

She is afraid for HER son to be in the home...can't say I blame her at this point.
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:45 am


Last prayer vigil to be held Tuesday night


Posted: Nov 29, 2011 5:18 PM EST Updated: Nov 29, 2011 5:54 PM EST

By Laura McCallister, Multimedia Producer - email

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -
Tuesday marks eight weeks since baby Lisa Irwin went missing from her Kansas City home.

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Those who organize prayer vigils for baby Lisa said that Tuesday night will be the last vigil at the request of her mother, Debbie Bradley. The vigil will be outside the family's home on North Lister Avenue at 7 p.m.


Anyone with information is asked to call the Tips Hotline at 816-474-TIPS.

Copyright 2011 KCTV. All rights reserved.


OP comment...boy this really TICKS me off! What does Debbie think would be the BEST interest of her baby!!!!!?????
The organizer is Edith who posts alot on WS.






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Post by Verogal on Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:45 am

Gag order hearing delayed in custody battle over Lisa Irwin's half-brother

LIBERTY, Mo. - A hearing regarding a gag order in the custody battle over one of Lisa Irwin’s half-brothers has been delayed until Dec. 7.

Neither the boy's mother Rasleen Raim nor father Jeremy Irwin, who is also Baby Lisa's father, were in court for the 9 a.m. hearing Tuesday regarding the gag order in the court battle fover their son.

The attorney for Raim did not appear for the hearing. Irwin was represented by Kansas City attorney John Picerno.

Earlier this month, Raim, Irwin's ex-girlfriend, filed for temporary custody of their 8-year-old son. She said it was for his "safety, comfort and peace of mind."

One-year-old Lisa Irwin disappeared from Irwin's Northland home on October 4.

Irwin's attorney said Rasleen hasn't seen her son for six years and that Jeremy plans to fight the petition.

Picerno said his clients will not go through another round of separate interviews with police regarding Lisa, despite the standing request from KCPD.

He said Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin were interviewed for a total of 30 hours individually on October 4, Oct 6 and Oct 8. He said the only time they were represented by an attorney was on October 8.

Picerno said his clients were interrogated during the meetings and that it wouldn't be "productive" or in "their best interest" to go through it again.

KCPD spokesperson Capt. Steve Young said, "Some of the questions may have made Deborah and Jeremy uncomfortable but we are trying to find a missing child."


Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/Gag-order-discussed-in-custody-battle-over-Lisa-Irwin-s-half-brother#ixzz1f9mzVrrZ
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Post by Verogal on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:50 am

Irwin Family Wants Vigils to Stop

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — One of the organizers of the regular public vigils at the home of Lisa Irwin says the Irwin family has asked her to stop holding the gatherings at the house where the little girl disappeared.

The group that calls themselves Lisa’s Angels has conducted more than 20 searches. FOX 4′s Macradee Aegerter talked to the group who says they don’t understand why the family doesn’t want the public’s support.

http://fox4kc.com/2011/11/29/irwin-family-wants-vigils-to-stop/

(op comment...DB/JI LEFT the home before vigil began)
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Post by TomTerrific0420 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:50 am

they don’t understand why the family doesn’t want the public’s support

I totally understand. They know what happened. The public does not...
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Post by Verogal on Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:22 pm

I agree with ya Tom AND they want to get back to normal!!! I loved what Mark Klauss said last night in Ref to seeing Michelle's family WAS ACTIVELY OUT LOOKING FOR THERE DAUGHTER and NOT HIDING behind their attorney...the irony is rich indeed.
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Post by Verogal on Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:24 pm

Looks like from John Welch site they might be discussing the show tonight at nine...with the start of tonights new season...but, for sure will be talking about Sky's case

Kansas City Police are still searching for 11-month-old Lisa Irwin, who was last seen on October 4, 2011.

Police say that Lisa's mother, Deborah Bradley, told them the last time she saw her daughter was when she put her in her crib at 6:40 p.m. on the night of October 10th.

According to police, Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, returned home around 4:00 am after his shift ended at work. He told police the lights were on in the house and the door was unlocked. He told police when he went to check on Lisa in her crib, she was gone.

Jeremy ran into the bedroom and asked Deborah where Lisa was. Deborah told him she had no idea.

Police have lead an intensive investigation, searching everywhere and interviewing everyone. If you have any information regarding the whereabouts of Lisa Irwin, call our hotline right away at 1-800-CRIME-TV.

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=78835&refresh=1
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Post by TomTerrific0420 on Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:42 pm

Poster's Note: This is quickly becoming a cold case. Just to keep it toward the top, here's a related story.

Shortly after baby Lisa Irwin disappeared in October, Amy noticed other shoppers looking at her and her 10-month-old baby, Lucy, in the supermarket.

“I saw people peering down the aisles at me,” the Overland Park mother said. “But I convinced myself that they were probably just looking for a can of green beans or something.”

Then three older women surrounded her.

“How old is your baby?” they asked. One of them pulled down Lucy’s blanket and lifted the baby’s dress to inspect her legs.

Other shoppers whispered and pointed Amy’s way.



This is Baby Lucy-striking resemblance, no?

“They think this is baby Lisa,” she realized. The woman was checking Lucy’s leg for the birthmark on Lisa Irwin’s right thigh.

The incident — one of hundreds of potential baby Lisa sightings reported to police — ended with Overland Park officers following Amy home and leaving only after she presented Lucy’s vaccination records and insurance card.

“At that point, I was glad people were paying attention,” said Amy, who didn’t want her last name published because of fears for her baby’s safety. “I would want that if my baby were missing.

“I just thought, ‘Wow. What a day. It’s a fluke.’ ”

But then it happened again. And again. Five times in all, Amy and her husband, David, have had to prove to law enforcement officers that they are indeed Lucy’s parents.

And that doesn’t count the times shoppers have cast dirty looks. Amy worries that someone is always watching her, judging her. She’s afraid to let anyone baby-sit Lucy because they might not be able to prove their relationship with her. She wonders how the negative attention is affecting her three other children.

The family is not convinced it’s over. Police visited their home last week in an incident that Amy ranks as the “worst of all.”

“I can’t tell you how emotionally this has affected me,” she said. “It’s to the point where I’m afraid of going out. It’s very upsetting.”

Amy and David are among hundreds of parents across the country and into Canada who have been asked to prove their relationship with their child because of baby Lisa’s case, Kansas City police said. Of the 1,419 leads received in the case, 422 of them are baby sightings.

But Kansas City police know of no other parents who have been repeatedly targeted like Amy and David.

Kansas City Police Sgt. Sondra Zink acknowledged the case has had far-flung repercussions.

“You think about her family and the detectives and all the peripheral people,” she said. “There is a trickle-down effect with the impact it has had on so many different people.”

• • •

When Lisa disappeared Oct. 4 from her Northland home, Amy paid close attention to the case.

“My heart was with the parents,” she said. “Obviously, I have a baby the same age, so I could really identify with them.”

Amy remembers thinking her baby resembled Lisa. They are about the same age and length and they share striking blue eyes. Lucy is a little thinner, Amy said.

“But never in a million years did it dawn on me that someone would report us to police,” she said.

The first incident made Amy want to bolt from the store and leave her groceries behind. Instead, she paid her bill and left in tears. She met her husband for lunch at Taco Bell, where Lucy drew stares from an older couple.

“They were just sitting there, not eating their food, just staring at us,” Amy said.

It didn’t help that Lucy was extremely fussy at the time, crying and pushing away from her parents.

Amy thought about saying something to the older couple but decided against it.

“I wanted to say, ‘This isn’t Lisa,’ ” she said. “But I figured it would just make me look more guilty.”

After David went back to work, Amy walked to her car and buckled Lucy’s car seat. The older man followed her outside and scribbled down her license number.

By now, Amy was drenched in sweat. She drove home, expecting to be pulled over. Sure enough, she said, an Overland Park officer began following her. He followed for three excruciating miles.

“I didn’t know what they were going to do,” she said. “I mean, if they think I have a kidnapped baby, I didn’t know if they were going to come out guns a-blazing or what.”

The patrol car didn’t stop her and Amy pulled into her driveway. Soon an officer knocked on her door.

He asked for her baby’s head circumference at birth. Amy didn’t know. She felt a bit inadequate.

The officer checked for Lisa’s birthmark, reviewed Amy’s paperwork and left.

A few days later, a Johnson County sheriff’s deputy showed up at her door. Again, Amy displayed her documentation and mentioned the Overland Park officer’s visit.

“I hope that doesn’t continue,” he told her.

But it did.

On Oct. 8, Amy and David went to Metcalf South Shopping Center. Her mother tagged along and bought David some work boots as a gift.

Not long after they returned home, someone knocked on their door. Amy’s 11-year-old daughter looked out the back window and saw a police officer in the back yard. Another officer was at the front door. There were three police cars. The 11-year-old was “freaked out,” Amy said.

The Overland Park officers brought surveillance photos of Amy taken at the mall — detailed images from every angle, including captions that referred to her as middle-aged and overweight. The terms stung.

“It makes you feel absolutely horrible as a person, the way they look at you, like you have a kidnapped baby,” Amy said. “I have no idea what my neighbors think with the police over here so often.”

After 20 minutes of questioning, the officers left. Amy got a police business card this time because she wanted to start documenting the visits.

A few days later, during a trip to Walmart, she noticed an older woman following her. Amy was looking for teething tablets, which were near the children’s cough medicine.

“Oh, does your baby have a cold?” the woman asked. Lisa reportedly had a cold when she disappeared.

“No,” Amy replied.

The woman followed her to the baby clothing area, where Amy looked for socks.

“What kind of mother doesn’t have socks for their baby?” the woman asked.

Amy explained that Lucy had outgrown her socks. “You need to leave me alone,” Amy told her.

Amy watched as the woman went to the customer service department. A store manager approached Amy. She refused to talk to him.

“If you think there is something wrong, then you should call the police,” she told him.

The police didn’t come for her — that time. But within a few days, she was again explaining herself to officers, who stopped her as she left a grocery store.

They took her baby from her while other shoppers stared at her. The officers searched her grocery bag and looked at her receipt.

“It was 15 minutes of me standing outside this store, having people look at me like I’d done something horrible,” she said. “Meanwhile, Lucy’s going crazy because this stranger is handling her. She’s at that age now where she is scared of strangers.”

Things calmed down in November and Amy thought the worst was over.

But on Nov. 30, when she returned home from an errand, her husband told her an officer had stopped by. David didn’t remember the officer saying where he was from.

Amy started to worry.

She called Overland Park police, who said they had not sent an officer. She called the sheriff’s office. Another no. Then she called Kansas City police. She had wondered why — in all this mess — they hadn’t paid a visit yet.

But Kansas City said it had no record of an officer going to their home.

“My heart dropped to my stomach,” she said. “I was wondering, ‘Who’s been inside my home asking about my baby?’ ”

A Kansas City commander called Amy back and told her she should file an impersonation report with Overland Park police “the minute you hang up from this call.”

Amy summoned Overland Park officers, who spent 45 minutes taking down every detail of the visit. They pulled nearby surveillance images to try to identify the man’s car. David and Amy checked how secure their front windows were and called their children’s school to make sure no strangers picked them up.

Four hours had gone by when the Kansas City commander again called Amy.

“I have egg all over my face,” he told her.

The man who had visited was a Kansas City investigator who had not yet logged the tip in the database.

• • •

Amy and David know that as long as Lisa is missing, the questions could continue.

Amy’s mother suggested Amy dress Lucy in boy clothes. Amy has thought about posting a note on her door that says, “If this is about baby Lisa, contact Kansas City police.”

Kansas City police personally investigate any leads they receive in the metropolitan area. Tips beyond an hour or two drive are delegated to the FBI.

Overland Park police said they don’t know if they ever notified Kansas City about the tips about Lucy.

Kansas City police said they are taking steps to improve communication among area law enforcement agencies for better record-keeping. They encourage people with tips to call the Tips Hotline at 816-474-8477 (TIPS) so the information will be routed directly to them.

A source close to the investigation, who didn’t want to be named, lamented the ordeal that David and Amy have faced.

“Not only were these people bothered,” he said, “we wasted more law enforcement time.”

Amy said she wants people who think they have spotted Lisa to call police, but not try to touch the baby or insult the parents.

“I guess one thing this has taught me is maybe don’t be so judgmental.”



Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/09/3312107/family-of-similar-child-is-caught.html#ixzz1g8foJqFF
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by kiwimom on Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:38 am

December 17, 2011 6:12 AM EST

It’s been more than two months since Baby Lisa disappeared from her Kansas City home.

Baby Lisa’s disappearance might not be getting a lot of mass-media
attention these days, but her case has still captivated many people from all over the country.
(Photo: Reuters)
A handout picture of Lisa Irwin

The recent update about the case is that blogs and news sources online are speculating on whether baby Lisa is dead or alive.

There is a group of people in Kansas City who is now speaking out
about the missing baby and they also want the public to know that they
believe she is alive and well.

Lisa’s parents Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley said that she disappeared from her crib in the middle of the night on Oct. 4.

The volunteers are so passionate about this one-year-old that they
have spoken out to the media, criticized Lisa's parents and held vigils
and walks outside her home and around the Kansas area.

On Sunday afternoon, this group got together and showed their support for the missing baby with a march at Penguin Park.

Volunteers are marching just to bring attention back to the missing
baby and spread the word that she is still alive. The group is also
doubtful about her parents and their lack of co-operation in the search
for the baby. According to NBC Action News, "the group wonders why the
family has not conducted their own search for the missing child."

"I am somewhat disappointed because I believe they should be out
searching with the strangers. Just wish the baby was found because it
disappoints me. The baby's gone and they're not helping to locate her,"
said Kansas City, Mo. resident Cindie Williams.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/268839/20111217/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-kansas-city-group.htm
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by kiwimom on Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:00 am

The Lisa Irwin disappearance shook the state of Missouri in October,
then the rest of the nation. However, it's not the top ranking news
story in the "Show Me" state for 2011. The Joplin tornado is! That's a
shame considering this baby is still gone and there have been very few
leads in the past month.

So
where is Lisa Irwin, and why isn't this story at the top of the
headlines still? The Joplin tornado was, indeed, a tragedy. However, it
came and went. It's over. This missing persons case is still open and still unsolved.
Perhaps it has something to do with the general feeling that maybe this
baby isn't truly missing at all. It's been long suspected that the
disappearance of the Kansas City infant shares a lot of similarities
with the disappearance (murder) of Caylee Marie Anthony in 2008. Is
Deborah Bradley the next "Tot Mom?"
The circumstances in the case
of this missing child are suspicious, and the Kansas City police are
more than aware of that. That's why they've been silently investigating
in the background. Meanwhile, the media seems to have lost interest in
this case and it appears to be for the same reasons. Nonetheless, this
child is still missing whether she's alive or dead, and she needs to be
found. Lisa Irwin needs to be found so justice can be brought to
whomever did this to her.
Lisa Irwin and Ayla Reynolds: Two missing babies, two suspicious stories
Like
the case of little lisa, Ayla Reynolds was reported missing by a parent
after being left in her crib all night. Justin Dipietro, Ayla's father,
says that she was abducted from her crib in the middle of the night on
December 17th. However, it's been speculated that perhaps Justin knows
more about what happened to "daddy's little princess" than he is letting
on. Trista Reynolds claims that the child showed bruising on her thighs
before she vanished. Could Justin have been abusing his 20-month old
daughter?
The Lisa Irwin and Ayla Reynolds disappearances are very
suspicious, and both cases show signs of the parents knowing far more
than what is reaching the media. Unfortunately, neither of these babies
have been found so the world may never know what truly happened to
either one of them; And that's a crying shame.
Chelsea
Hoffman is a prolific crime writer and fiction author with several
works published. Her writing has been recognized by such entities as NBC
Dateline and several others.
Contact her directly by visiting ChelseaHoffman.Com

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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:24 am

Confident He Saw a Live Baby. Was it Lisa Irwin?

Sometimes in the confusion and rush for information in the early part of a case, things get overlooked. Interviews conducted by reporters are often edited for time or the euphoria of the scoop overshadows the detailed questions that need to be asked. With those things considered, I thought several things that came out early in the disappearance of Lisa Irwin merit reexamination.

I reached out to Mike Thompson for just that reason. If you remember, Mike is one of what I think may be two credible sightings in the overnight hours that Lisa went missing. The first interesting sighting, for me, is the 12:15 report by neighbors on Chelsea Street. The surveillance video at the BP gas station has become what many of us feel as nothing.

When I called Thompson, he was most cooperative. I wanted to meet him at the intersection of NE 48th St. and N Randolph so he could show me the exact locations of what he saw just after 4 a.m. on the morning of October 4, 2011.

We met today. A much colder day than the lower 50's the night Lisa went missing. But that night was cool enough a baby should have had more than just a diaper on.

Mike was getting off of work driving due south on his motorcycle on Hwy 435 taking the off ramp at NE 48th St. in Kansas City, Missouri. As he slowed down to turn west on NE 48th St., he saw a man walking from the south side of 48th, crossing the road, and heading north on N. Randolph. Mike stopped his motorcycle at the intersection. It was very well lit with street lights. By this time a man, carrying a baby was probably around 20 to 30 yards north of the intersection walking on N. Randolph. Mike says he hollered, "Are you okay?" The man turned toward Thompson, a baby clearly visible in his arms, only in a diaper, sitting straight up in his arms and alert. The man responded only with a nod.

Mike says the man had salt and pepper hair; short hair, but long enough for a comb. It was not a buzz cut. He is confident the man not only had a baby in his arms, but a live baby. The baby's body was clearly visible, not mistaken for a bag.

After he got the nonverbal response, Thompson recalls telling the man that he better get a coat or a blanket or something to that effect on the baby. He found it odd. Mike then drove off, westward down NE 48th Street to visit a cousin. The man continued to carry the baby north on N. Randolph.

Mike told his cousin what he saw but never thought much more about it for another week. As awareness of Lisa Irwin's disappearance increased over the week, Mike's cousin, told him he thought he should call the Kansas City police department (KCPD). He did.

Thompson says two KCPD detectives then visited his home some 90 miles from the sighting. Mike describes their reaction to his sighting as interested but not excited. As his observations were made public, the media onslaught began. Good Morning America took him out to dinner to woo him. He laughs and said I would have talked to them anyway.

Mike was shown photos by child advocate Gil Abeyta. In both Abeyta's presentation and the subsequent one by the KCPD when family former attorney Cyndy Short took him back to the KCPD, Thompson pointed to photos of James Brando, the estranged husband of then-next door neighbor Samantha Brando. Samantha has since filed for divorce and James is back living next door.

I met James Brando in early December 2011. At that time, some two months after Lisa's departure, his hair was short, close cropped. It is entirely possible that Thompson was not shown a photo of the man he saw that night and picked out someone who looked the closest.

Thompson says the man was wearing a white shirt and light colored pants. He guessed his height at around 5'7".

The direction that the man was heading, north on N. Randolph, was away from World's of Fun amusement park and certainly not in the direction of two abandoned cemetaries and adjacent areas that have been futilely searched. The direction the man was heading was to a residential area.

Thompson says he has seen photos of Jersey and the man he saw was not him. However, why would the person Thompson saw that night be on foot? It seems like it would have been someone that did not have transportation. By the streets, this location is three miles from the home of Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, Lisa's parents. If they walked the entire distance, it seems like a long way as well as dangerous to be spotted, if they did not have access to a vehicle.

Mike told me his heart really goes out to the family. He says he knows what he saw that night and wants to help in any way he can. Maybe by sharing this additional information publicly someone else who saw something that night will speak up, or if there is another explanation for a man walking with a baby, that man will step forward.
Posted by Ron Rugen, Licensed Private Investigator at 5:21 PM

http://kansascitypi.blogspot.com/2012/01/confident-he-saw-live-baby-was-it-lisa.html
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Re: LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Post by Verogal on Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:24 am

Baby Lisa's parents making national talk show appearance

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -
The parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin have taped an appearance on a national talk show.

Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin will appear on the Dr. Phil Show on Feb. 3.

"They sat down with Dr. Phil because of his commitment to keep the awareness level high," said Joe Tacopina, the couple's New York attorney. "He also provided Deb and Jeremy with some advice on how to cope with the situation."

The interview will air exactly four months after Lisa Irwin's parents say they last saw her.


Irwin called police about 4 a.m. Oct. 4 to say his then 10-month-old daughter had been snatched from her crib while she was sleeping. Bradley said she last saw her daughter about 6:30 p.m. Oct. 3.

A national search was launched, but the baby has not been found.


Bradley has admitted that she drank enough during the hours leading up to her daughter's disappearance to black out. She has said she expects to be arrested in connection with her daughter's disappearance.

Based on advice of their attorneys, the couple is refusing to meet separately with police to answer questions about their daughter's disappearance. A command post was dismantled in November.

Private, unidentified donors have established a $100,000 reward fund.

Earlier this month, a Kansas City attorney for the couple had said there were new leads in the hunt for the missing baby.

Tacopina declined comment on those.

"As for the investigation, we are working on a few fresh leads, but cannot discuss (them) at this time," the attorney said.


Bradley and Irwin have not discussed the search for their missing daughter since the initial days in which she went missing.

Investigators have spent dozens of hours searching the family home in the Northland on Lister Avenue.

Police said the Kansas City crime lab had completed processing the critical evidence in the days and weeks after the infant went missing.

To read a previous story about the new leads in the case, click here.


Copyright 2012 KCTV (Meredith Corp.) All rights reserved

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16593021/baby-lisas-parents-making-national-television-appearance

(smh...just wow...here we go again...so I guess this is how they move on to getting back to norma...rumor mill is that got a jeep too.)
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