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Post by mermaid55 Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:44 pm

Amber Alert
MADELINE LAYLA SAMAAN-FAY - 2 yo - Sacramento CA Madeli10
Missing From: Sacramento, CA
Missing Date: 08/07/2011 9:00 AM Pacific
Issued for: California: Statewide
Contact: If you have information, please contact Sacramento FBI, 916-481-9110
Circumstances: UPDATE AMBER ALERT: The child is Egyptian. A new photo of the child has been added. PARENTAL ABDUCTION A STATEWIDE AMBER ALERT HAS BEEN ISSUED AT THE REQUEST OF THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE FOLLOWING: ON AUGUST 7, 2011, AT 09:00 AM, MADELINE LAYLA SAMAAN-FAY WAS TAKEN BY HER FATHER FROM SACRAMENTO, CA. MADELINE LAYLA SAMAAN-FAY IS A 2 YEAR OLD FEMALE, 2 FEET 8 INCHES TALL, 28 POUNDS, JUVENILE WITH BROWN HAIR, AND BROWN EYES, UNKNOWN CLOTHING. THE FATHER IS MOURAD "MONI" SAMAAN, A 49 YEAR OLD, EGYPTIAN, MALE, 5 FEET 6 INCHES TALL, WEIGHING 160 POUNDS, WITH BLACK HAIR, BROWN EYES, UNKNOWN CLOTHING. THE FATHER IS KNOWN TO DRIVE A GREEN 1998 TOYOTA 4RUNNER, WITH A CA LICENSE PLATE OF 3XRM111. IF SEEN CONTACT SACRAMENTO FBI AT (916) 481-9110.

Missing Child
Name: Madeline Layla Samaan-Fay
Alias:
Hair Color: Brown Eye Color: Brown
Skin Color: Egyptian Age: 2YO
Height: 2FT8 Weight: 28LBS
Gender: Female
Description: Unknown clothing

Suspect
Name: Mourad Samaan
Alias: Moni
Hair Color: Black Eye Color: Brown
Skin Color: Egyptian Age: 49YO
Height: 5FT6 Weight: 160LBS
Gender: Male
Description: Unknown clothing

Vehicle Information
Make: Toyota Model: 4runner
Color: Green Interior Color:
License State: CA License Text: 3XRM111
Vehicle Description:
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Post by mermaid55 Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:47 pm

Friday, Aug. 12, 2011
FBI: Sacramento toddler abducted by dad may be in danger

Authorities in Sacramento County today are looking for a missing 2-year-old girl who is believed to have been abducted by her father and is in danger, according to an FBI news release.
Madeline Samaan-Fay was abducted on Sunday in Sacramento by her father, 49-year-old Mourad “Moni” Samaan, FBI agents said.
Authorities described the girl as 2 feet, 8 inches tall, weighing about 28 pounds with brown hair and brown eyes. Her father is described as a U.S. citizen born in Egypt who speaks Spanish, 5-foot-6, 160 pounds with black hair and brown eyes.

Samaan is known to drive a green Toyota 4Runner with California license plate: 3XRM111. The FBI released photos of a similar vehicle, along with photos of the girl and her father.
FBI agents said the circumstances of the abduction are concerning and they believe the girl’s life may be in jeopardy.
“In spite of extraordinary efforts by our field agents and local law enforcement, we have been unable to develop any leads on the whereabouts of the child or her father, said Special Agent in Charge Herbert Brown in the news release.
The FBI is working on this investigation with the Sacramento Police Department, the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department, the California Highway Patrol and the state Department of Justice.
Authorities ask anyone who spots Samaan or his vehicle to call the FBI at (916) 481-9110.


Read more: http://www.modbee.com/2011/08/12/1813179/fbi-sacramento-toddler-abducted.html#ixzz1Urilg5Pl
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Post by alwaysbelieve Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:42 pm

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Year: 1998
Make: TOYOTA
Model: 4RUNNER
Color: Green
License State: CA
License Text: 3XRM111
Description: No Information Provided
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Post by alwaysbelieve Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:44 pm

http://pleasehelpthesemissingchildren.blogspot.com/2011/08/madeline-layla-samaan-fay-2-critical.html

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Madeline was allegedly abducted by her non-custodial father, Mourad
“Moni Samaan. Although Madeline's parents had shared custody, sole
custody was granted to the mother following the father's failure to
return the child.
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Post by alwaysbelieve Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:46 pm

http://pleasehelpthesemissingchildren.blogspot.com/2011/08/madeline-layla-samaan-fay-2-critical.html

Surveillance stills released to the public show Madeline with her father in a grocery store on August 6th.
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Post by twinkletoes Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:59 pm

I hope he doesn't smuggle her out of the country.

If he takes her to Egypt, it will be impossible to get her back without kidnapping her from him.
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Post by Annabeth Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:01 am

twinkletoes wrote:I hope he doesn't smuggle her out of the country.

If he takes her to Egypt, it will be impossible to get her back without kidnapping her from him.



That is my fear too Twink, that he will get her to Egypt and then almost impossible to get her back.....she must be so scared....
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Post by TomTerrific0420 Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:53 am

The bodies of a man and a girl were found inside a vehicle belonging to a suspect in an Amber Alert case, authorities said. Authorities
believe 2-year-old Madeline Samaan-Fay was abducted by her father,
Mourad "Moni" Samaan. An Amber Alert was issued Friday for Madeline, who
was last seen a week ago in Sacramento.
In a written statement,
the FBI in Sacramento, California, said the bodies were found in
Samaan's vehicle Saturday night but did not identify the bodies, saying
more information would be released later.
The green Toyota 4Runner was found in a remote area of El Dorado County, near Placerville, California, the FBI said.


http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/14/california.amber.alert.bodies/
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Post by TomTerrific0420 Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:54 am

An adult
male and female child were found dead Saturday in the SUV targeted in a
statewide Amber Alert following a father's abduction of his Sacramento
toddler, the FBI said.
The green Toyota 4Runner of Mourad "Moni"
Samaan, 49, and his 2-year-old daughter Madeline Samaan-Fay was found
Saturday at about 8 p.m. on a road near the town of Sommerset, about 50
miles east of the capital. The FBI canceled the Amber Alert, but stopped
short of confirming the two people dead inside the SUV were the father
and daughter.
The cause and time of death are unknown, the FBI
said, and federal and El Dorado Sheriff's Office investigators were
processing the scene into the night.
The FBI issued an Amber Alert
on Friday after Samaan abducted his daughter on Aug. 7 and was
reportedly headed to the Bay Area. The Egyptian-born U.S. citizen took
his daughter after losing joint custody of the toddler, the FBI said.
The
girl was last seen Aug. 7 with her father in a Sacramento grocery
store. The FBI released photographs of the father and daughter,
including a photo showing them in the grocery store.


http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_18679017?source=rss
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Post by TomTerrific0420 Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:29 pm

A search for answers continues today into the deaths of a 2-year-old girl and her father, who were the subject of an Amber Alert issued Friday.
The child, Madeline Samaan-Fay,
and her father, Mourad "Moni" Samaan, 49, were found dead in the
father's green Toyota 4Runner SUV at 11 p.m. Saturday in a remote area
of El Dorado County near Grizzly Flat.
A cause of death has not been revealed. Both the El Dorado County Sheriff's Department and the FBI declined Sunday to offer any details about the circumstances of the deaths.


"We don't have any information today and don't anticipate anything coming," said FBI special agent John Cauthen.
The Sacramento County Coroner's Office is conducting autopsies of the father and daughter under an existing contract with El Dorado County.
The bodies were found on a 40-acre property on String Canyon Road jointly owned by Moni Samaan and his younger brother, Nabil Samaan.
Sheriff's
deputies found the bodies after being asked by the FBI to search the
property late Saturday. They arrived to find a gate to the property
chained and locked, and got assistance in searching the parcel from a
California Highway Patrol helicopter.
An Amber Alert for the
little girl was issued after officials suspected she had been abducted
by her father. Samaan received notification Aug. 6 that the girl's
mother, Marcia Ann Fay, 46, had been awarded full custody of their daughter, ending a joint-custody arrangement.
FBI
investigators said Samaan ceased contact with family members and went
"electronically dark" a day after receiving the custody notice.
He later failed to return his daughter to her mother, who reported her missing Tuesday.
Fay is a California deputy attorney general who lives in Sacramento.
Moni Samaan, a Fair Oaks resident, worked for Hewlett Packard as a development engineer. He was a U.S. citizen who was born in Egypt.


Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/08/15/3837932/answers-elusive-so-far-in-deaths.html#ixzz1V6GWPyWO
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Post by TomTerrific0420 Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:31 pm

SACRAMENTO—
The brother of the man who likely murdered his
daughter before taking his own life tells FOX40 that his brother, Mourad
"Moni" Samaan, was the victim of a broken family court system.

Nabil Samaan, a lawyer and father, claims his brother's ex-wife waged a
brutal custody battle that pushed Mourad over the edge. According to
court records provided to us by Nabil, Mourad's ex-wife is Marcia Fay, a
California Deputy Attorney General.

"In every battle there's an end, and this is the end…You can justify or
try to argue that Moni wasn't a good father, and that's just denying the
facts. The facts that he was an exceptional father," Nabil Samaan said Sunday.

Nabil says that Mourad and his ex-wife couldn't even agree on a name for
their daughter. The Samaan's referred to the little girl as Layla, and
the Fay's referred to her as Madeline.

Last week, the FBI
issued an Amber Alert for Madeline Layla Samaan-Fay. Agents say her
father Mourad was supposed to return her to her mother but did not. On
Saturday, the FBI discovered the bodies of the little girl and her
father in an SUV parked in El Dorado County near some land the Samaan family owns.

"I think he did the right thing. I'm proud of my brother and now he's in
a better place. He's at peace. His daughter's at peace. She'll have one
name now, and we can move on. And hopefully the court will learn a
little thing about justice," Nabil said.

FOX40 asked if that's how he really felt, and he reiterated his point.

"I think justice was done as Moni saw it, and as I see it, frankly. I think under the circumstances, justice was done."

FOX40 attempted to contact Marcia Fay by going to three locations where we thought she might be, but we could not find her.

http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-news-amber-alert-brother-talks,0,2753029.story
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Post by mom_in_il Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:06 pm

Mother of Amber Alert Child "Shell-Shocked" by Death; Refutes Custody Battle Claims
Sam Cohen & Lonnie Wong FOX40 News

11:18 a.m. PDT, August 15, 2011

SACRAMENTO— The mother of little Madeline Layla, who was the focus of an Amber Alert last week, is reportedly “shell-shocked” from the tragic discovery of her daughter and ex-husband dead.

An Amber Alert was issued Friday after Mourad “Moni” Samaan did not return Madeline after a visit earlier in the week. Samaan and his daughter were found dead in his SUV on an El Dorado Hills property over the weekend.

A friend of Marcia Fay’s spoke to FOX40 and says she is waiting for family to arrive to comfort her. The friend also challenged Samaan’s family’s claim about an intense custody battle between the couple.

Samaan’s brother, Nabil Samaan, told FOX40 the deaths were the result of a brutal custody battle that pushed Mourad Samaan over the edge. You can watch his interview with Chris Biele here.

However, Fay’s friend says there was no court order taking away custody, and that Samaan had custody rights at the time of the kidnapping last week. He did say that there was an issue last month which led to a court hearing.

According to Fay’s friend, Samaan was hesitant to return Madeline after a visit in July, requiring Sheriff’s Deputies to get involved to retrieve the girl. From that incident, the court issued a contempt of court order against Samaan and there was a hearing pending.

http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-mother-of-amber-alert-child-shellshocked-by-death-refutes-custody-battle-claims-20110815,0,7016632.story
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Post by mom_in_il Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:10 pm

Video of Interview with Nabil Samaan, brother of the man who likely murdered his daughter before taking his own life.

VIDEO: http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-amber-alert-victims-uncle-spe-20110815,0,2285745.premiumvideo
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Post by mom_in_il Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:13 pm

"justice was done" . . . ."he did the right thing"

How can he say that?!? A little girl is dead! tears
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Post by TomTerrific0420 Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:25 am

SACRAMENTO—

The cause of death of a Citrus Heights man and his two-year-old daughter remains a mystery pending an autopsy, but the Sheriff's Department confirmed Monday evening that their investigation suggests it was most likely a murder-suicide.

49-year-old Mourad Samaan and his daughter Madeline were found Saturday night in his car near Placerville. Authorities had put out an Amber Alert believing that Madeline was at risk of harm at the hands of Samaan.

Samaan's brother Nabil Samaan said it was a bitter custody battle with Mourad's ex-wife Marcia Fay that caused his brother to break under the stress.
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"He couldn't hold his baby. She tried to prevent him from holding the baby when it was born. It's been a battle for 3 years," said Nabil Samaan.

He blames the court system for taking away visiting rights even though Mourad, also known as "Moni", was a great dad.

Nabil, who is a lawyer, says Fay and her attorney hounded Moni with frivilous court motions and that she was finally given full custody. Nabil says his brother was showing his love for Madeline by standing up for his rights.

"I'm glad he did it. I'm proud of him. Now he's at peace and she's at peace," said Nabil.

But court records show that Moni was ordered to take anger management classes and that sheriff's deputies were called in July when he was reluctant to turn Madeline over during a visit.

But Women Escaping A Violent Environment sees things differently. "It's about power over their victim," said WEAVE Executive Director Beth Hassett in describing classic domestic abusers.

Hassett said abusers often take violent action when there's a change in the relationship.

"Whether the woman chooses to leave, a divorce becomes final, custody changes...these are very dangerous times," said Hassett.

Hassett says domestic relationships are very confusing because nobody knows what happens behind closed doors.

But everyone can agree that it's a tragedy when an innocent two year old girl is killed needlessly.

http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-amber-alert-deaths-determined-as-murdersuicide-20110815,0,4139967.story
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Post by kiwimom Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:32 am

Missing Northern California girl, father died of car exhaust


Associated Press

Posted: 08/17/2011 08:00:05 AM PDT
Updated: 08/17/2011 08:00:07 AM PDT

SACRAMENTO
-- The grandfather of a 2-year-old California girl found dead with her
father inside an SUV says the two died of carbon monoxide poisoning
from the car's exhaust pipe.
Makram Samaan told The Sacramento
Bee (http://bit.ly/nnsThQ ) on Monday that his son, Mourad "Moni"
Samaan, killed himself and Layla Samaan-Fay after a bitter custody
battle that began before the child was born.
Their bodies were found inside the 49-year-old father's Toyota 4Runner in rural El Dorado County on Saturday.
The
El Dorado County Sheriff's office has not confirmed the causes of death
and did not immediately respond to requests for comment Tuesday.
The
father and daughter went missing a day after he learned his wife had
been awarded full custody of their child. Their bodies were discovered
nearly a week later.



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Post by TomTerrific0420 Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:46 am

Can an attorney be disbarred for saying reprehensible things to a television reporter?


Probably not, according to attorneys who defend other attorneys.
But that’s not stopping a group seeking to take a local lawyer’s license
following a shocking murder-suicide.


The Marin-based Center for Judicial Excellence (CJE) has
announced it will file a complaint with the State Bar of California
demanding the disbarment of Sacramento attorney Nabil Samaan. The group
says Samaan’s license should be taken away because of comments Samaan
made to a reporter that, according to CJE, appear to support his
brother’s decision to allegedly murder his own two-year-old daughter.


The case has roiled the Sacramento area for days.

The victim’s mother is Marcia Fay, a prominent deputy to state
Attorney General Kamala Harris. Fay’s ex-husband, Mourad “Moni” Samaan,
49, disappeared with Madeline Layla Samaan-Fay on Aug. 7 after a
scheduled visit.


This led to a statewide AMBER alert, which was called off on
Sunday when both their bodies were found inside an SUV on land Samaan’s
father owns in El Dorado County, about 50 miles from Sacramento. The
pair died of carbon monoxide poisoning, and police are investigating the
matter as a murder-suicide.


By Monday, members of the Samaan family were speaking to the
press. Nabil Samaan told Fox 40’s Chris Biele: “You can justify and try
to say that Moni wasn’t a good father, and that’s just ignoring the
facts. The fact is that he was an extraordinary father. Better than I’ll
ever be.”


Nabil Samaan added, “I think he did the right thing. I’m proud of him.”


This caused Biele to do a journalistic double-take, asking Nabil
Samaan if that’s really what he meant. “I think justice was done,”
Samaan replied.


As of press time, Nabil Samaan has not replied to a reporter’s
phone call and email seeking comment. Harris’ office declined to comment
on the case.


A spokeswoman with the Bar said she was not allowed to comment on pending disciplinary matters.

The motion rests on what the group says are two violations of the
Bar’s standards of ethics, which require that “an applicant for
admission to the practice of law in California possesses good moral
character.” The CJE’s Kathleen Russell said Samaan’s comments go far
beyond what should be necessary to demonstrate a violation.


“It clearly does not reflect well on the legal profession in California to be saying what he said on television,” Russell said.


The second complaint cites a section on ethical requirement that
requires attorneys “to support the Constitution and the laws of the
United States and California.” Referring to a brutal murder of a toddler
as “justice” fails to meet this standard, Russell says.


The vast majority of complaints that result in disbarment fall
into a few basic categories: A felony conviction, embezzlement of client
funds, failure to disclose a suspended law license to clients, or gross
incompetence or negligence, particularly following an earlier
suspension.


None of these would appear to directly apply in this case. Nabil
Samaan did not represent his brother as an attorney, at least in any
official capacity. Nor did he appear to commit a crime. The Bar
Association website shows no complaints against him.


“It’s incredibly bad taste, but probably protected by free speech
rights,” said Walnut Creek attorney Jerome Fiskin. His firm, Fiskin
Slater LLP, specializes in defending other lawyers in ethics and state
bar cases.


In general, Fiskin said disbarment comes in response to conduct
that affects an ongoing case, or which harms the attorney’s own client.
But he added that Samaan’s comments are still likely to be highly
detrimental to his law practice, particularly given the media and blog
attention given to his comments in recent days.


“What kind of people search out an attorney who, um … yeah,” Fishkin said, not quite able to complete his sentence.


The State Bar has disbarred a growing number of attorneys in
recent years. According to its latest annual disciplinary report, this
is primarily a result of working down a backlog of unaddressed
complaints. The State Bar disbarred 138 lawyers last year, which is as
many as lost their licenses in 2007 and 2008 combined.


“That is so not going to happen,” said attorney Diane Karpman of
the disbarment motion. Her firm, Karpman & Associates of Beverly
Hills, specializes in providing “ethics counsel” and defending attorneys
at the Bar. She added, “Having a wild mouth is not going to get you
disbarred.”


The process of getting through the bar process is exhaustive,
Karpman said. For instance, prospective attorneys must list every
address they’ve ever lived at, and open themselves up to extensive
background searches.


But once an attorney is a member of the bar, it takes very
specific actions to get disbarred. She pointed to “birther” attorney
Orly Taitz. Taitz has said all sorts of bizarre things to the press,
Karpman noted. While there have been complaints made to the California
State Bar about Taitz, Karpman added, they’re all related to her actual
conduct in court or in connection with particular cases she’s been
involved in.


Furthermore, Karpman said, Nabil Samaan would have a good defense
if he ever was called in front of the bar to defend his comments.


“There’s a pretty good argument to be made that the guy is
temporarily impaired,” Karpman said. “Finding out your brother is a
murderer might be a little hard to deal with, and you might say things
without thinking it through.”


According to State Bar records, Nabil Samaan was an undergraduate
at Sacramento State University, got his law degree at the University of
the Pacific’s McGeorge Law School in Sacramento, practices from an
office in Fair Oaks and has been a member of the state bar since 1994.
He’s also an avid bicyclist, and took in a nephew a few years ago who is
now himself a professional cyclist in his early 20s.


In the days since the murder, Nabil Samaan and his father,
85-year-old Dr. Makram Samaan, have repeatedly blamed the incident on
what they say is a corrupt family court system. The elder Samaan is a
psychologist who specializes in divorce and family counseling, and wrote
a master’s thesis on suicide.


While Makram Samaan’s comments have not been as incendiary as his
son’s, he praised Mourad Samaan’s skills as a father and called for
family disputes to be taken “out of the courts.” The family are Coptic
Christians from Egypt. The couple married in 2006, but separated before
their daughter’s birth at the end of 2008 — a birth that Mourad Samaan
reportedly wasn’t initially aware of.


Court records also show that Fay had concerns about her
ex-husband’s mental state, and believed that he was mentally ill.
According to the CJE’s Russell, the court did makes serious mistakes —
by allowing Mourad Samaan as much contact as it did. For instance,
Mourad Samaan refused to return the daughter during a scheduled visit in
July, she said.


“Why would the court give him another unsupervised visit?”
Russell said. “It’s ludicrous. They do it all the time, but it shows the
courts minimize mental health issues.”

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Post by TomTerrific0420 Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:53 pm

Mourad "Moni" Samaan and his 2-year-old daughter, Madeline Layla Samaan-Fay,
who were found dead Saturday in Samaan's sport-utility vehicle, both suffered gunshot wounds.
Lt. Brian Golmitz, El Dorado County Sheriff's Office spokesman, said an autopsy determined that Moni Samaan,
49, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
He said Madeline also suffered two gunshot wounds, but a determination of her cause of
death is pending a toxicology report because of the possibility of carbon monoxide poisoning.
The child's grandfather had earlier told a reporter that both father and daughter had died from carbon monoxide.
The two were the subject of an Amber Alert issued Friday after officials suspected that she had been abducted by her father.
Samaan received notification Aug. 6 that the girl's mother, Marcia Ann Fay,
46, had been awarded full custody of their daughter, ending a joint custody arrangement.
Samaan's father, Makram Samaan, a psychologist who helps couples mediate disputes and divorces, told The
Bee that his son was spending the day with his daughter when he learned
that a Sacramento County judge had awarded her mother full custody.
Makram Samaan said his son called him to say that he was afraid of losing his
daughter. That night, Moni Samaan took off with Madeline. The toddler's
mother, who was scheduled to pick up her daughter the following morning, reported her missing Aug. 7.
After a call from the FBI, which had issued the
Amber Alert, El Dorado County sheriff's deputies, with the help of a
California Highway Patrol helicopter, searched a wooded 40-acre property
in the Grizzly Flat area that Moni Samaan owned with his brother. They
found the SUV in a clearing beneath pine trees, about 500 yards up a
winding dirt road off String Canyon Road.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_18707108
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Post by twinkletoes Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:16 pm

Should this be moved to resolved?
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