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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:35 pm

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JB asks her to explain touch-DNA. Ashton objects since no DNA found. Overruled.

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By this mornings def. tactics I wonder if they are going to prove all the State didn't find instead of anything in their OS.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:35 pm

DiDimond Diane Dimond
Baez can point out all the LACK of DNA found. But how to explain to #caseyanthony jury why it smelled like"a dead body was in the damn car!"
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JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
I guess the question is, will Jose try to prove his theory, or disprove the state's?
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:46 pm

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I hope Ashton brings up the fact that the car & clothing were all cleaned. The car didnt even have the expected fingerprints
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:46 pm

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Baez: So if below 200, doesn't mean it's not there, but just that you're precluded from reporting it? Objection/sidebar.

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Baez is asking about FBI protocol in reporting results when Ashton objects and they move into sidebar.

TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
A few jurors stretch during this sidebar. #CaseyAnthony
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#CaseyAnthony jurors not taking notes. Arms folded. Sidebar again. I'm surprised defense has started so slow and technical.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:46 pm

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I think Baez is trying to insinuate someone's [George's] DNA might've been on shovel but not in qty sufficient to be reported. #CaseyAnthony
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#CaseyAnthony Jurors 1-5 still same exact reaction. Nothing. Wouldn't go all in even with a straight flush with those five.
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Another pix of #JoseBaez at the board. #CaseyAnthony http://yfrog.com/gzu35qtj
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:47 pm

TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
#CaseyAnthony jury is excused for 2nd time today to "take up a brief legal matter" outside their presence.
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Witness being questioned outside presence of jury now. #CaseyAnthony
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I think a box of new notebooks just arrived. Jury is being excused so a proffer (court w/ no jury) can continue. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:47 pm

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Baez says he only wants to elicit that the 55-RFU means there was something there, not who it belonged to or gender. #CaseyAnthony
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Ashton wants to know relevance- #Baez says he just wants to report that DNA material was found #CaseyAnthony -jfell
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Seubert says the results from the shovel aren't conclusive enough to tell if it the results came from female v. male
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:47 pm

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Ashton: Concerned counsel will argue to jury something that is scientifically incorrect. Judge says can ask in cross-exam.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:47 pm

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Judge asks witness what exactly those results mean. She says peak is potentially female or male, number too low to tell.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:48 pm

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Jose and Ashton going at it... fighting over evidence... NO JURY... DNA or lack of on shovel #CaseyAnthony borrowed from neighbor
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:48 pm

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#CayleeAnthony Now going to Have analyst reiterate no prints or DNA on tape on Caylee's skull
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:48 pm

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DNA typing performed on tape. Profile generated but below threshold for FBI's reporting policy.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:49 pm

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense got witness to testify dna "markers" excluded Casey, Caylee, George, Cindy and Lee then tested for contamination

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Seubert continued testing and found the DNA found on tape actually belonged to a FBI technician.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:49 pm

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense is asking whether the contamination was that of an FBI analyst.. She said yes, Lorie Gottesman
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Juror # 11 yawns and stretched his hands behind his head
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:50 pm

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Asked whether Gottesman's dna could have contaminated whatever other dna might have been there.. She said she would have seen a combination

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Wouldn't have altered process of exam. Sure, fewer who handle, the less chance of another profile deposited. #CaseyAnthony
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Seubert says it's possible contamination could have covered up any other DNA. But it would have to a lot of DNA covering up a tiny sample
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:50 pm

ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Now #caseyanthony DNA expert says many people handled duct tape evidence & elements degrade it & water submersion can be an issue too.
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Baez: Can you get DNA from an item that's under water? Seubert says possible but there are lots of factors that could hinder results.
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OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seubert: DNA possibly recovered from items that were underwater, depending on bodily fluid, other factors. #CaseyAnthony
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KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Sunlight, humidity could destroy dna
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:02 pm

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Buccal samples from Cindy, George, Lee were submitted. JB: Asked to perform DNA test to see if Lee Caylee's father?

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Objection! Attorneys approach. Judge lets jurors go ahead and leave for lunch.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:06 pm

ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Very angry OBJ to #caseyanthony def for asking if #leeanthony was tested for possible paternity of Caylee.
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Ashton asks Seubert if state or Orange Co asked FBI to do paternity test? She reads statement and it doesn't mention Lee Anthony.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:08 pm

ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Angry OBJ to #caseyanthony def ques "was paternity test requested for #leeanthony as to Caylees father" Jury sent to lunch.. Pros MAD now
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OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seubert: Lab can run paternity test, but Lee Anthony never mentioned in report. #CaseyAnthony
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Ashton: Suggesting that it was asked Lee be specifically tested is not a good-faith basis for asking that question.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:57 pm

InSession In Session
“That wasn’t the question he asked and he darn well knows it,” says Ashton in regards to #Baez ‘s explanation. #CaseyAnthony
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Ashton: "What is the relevance of that?" #CaseyAnthony
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Judge: Don't know what was in your (Baez's) mind, but you are NOT to ask questions that lead to that inference
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:57 pm

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Judge tells Baez to review a case concerning good faith questioning. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
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RT @ScorpyoRising: Ashton: "That is not the question counsel asked and he darn well knows it." #CaseyAnthony
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Judge Perry says no questions leading to the inference police asked about Lee. Judge says he doesn't know what was in their minds.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:57 pm

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Perry: Will consider striking Baez's question when they reconvene. #CaseyAnthony
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Judge will get text from court reporter and review to see if he'll strike per Ashton's request. Recess til 1:30. #CaseyAnthony
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DiDimond Diane Dimond
#CaseyAnthony Judge perry says he doesn't have a hearing problem...the "amplification of voices" is not necessary. Sends everyone to lunch
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:57 pm

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:05 pm

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I think FBI agent Savage asked for the DNA inclusion/exclusion for 2 reasons: 1) family very cagey about Caylee's dad... and...

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...2) there was a lot of public speculation that the reason family was cagey was b/c one of them was father. I think the FBI was simply...

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...covering all the bases. I don't think they suspected it, but instead simply wanted to rule him out.
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Post by oviedo45 Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:05 pm

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So his question before lunch was meant to bolster his claims of sex abuse by Lee, to add a layer of credibility b/c of FBI testing.
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