NICHOLAS ODZE - 4 yo (2009)/ Charged: Mother; Raisa Bernabe - Coral Springs FL

kiwimom wrote:Here's a link to the slightly longer version of the ME's report. Sorry, I can't copy PDF's. It doesn't say much else except confirm that supposedly Nicholas was last seen alive at 12.01am. That would have been by his father, who put him to bed according to Raisa if that's true. Then his father didn't wake up until 11am. I think I read Raisa went to work that morning. Is that right?
I'm wondering why Raisa didn't look in on Nicholas before she went to work like most mothers would have. I'm also wondering what the father was doing sleeping in til 11am if he was supposed to be looking after a 4 year old. I suppose it's possible that he slept in because Nicholas didn't wake him up, but it's also possible that the father normally slept til almost lunchtime, which makes me wonder if keeping Nicholas up until midnight was normal practice so he could sleep in. I wish we could get a copy of the search warrant.

[url=http://www.coralsprings.com/frontpage5/cause2.pdf

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

MysticOne wrote:

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

While I respect your right to have an opinion (even though it is apparent you haven't done your research before voicing it - but then you know what they say about opinions.. everyone has one.. just like..., well you know what I am saying).

I just have one, and only one question to ask of you, and I pray you answer honestly... what have you done for these children lately????? .

Have you searched for a missing one (we have).. have you posted information in the hopes that a missing one is found (we have, and they have), have you invested your time and energy into the research of such cases (we have)...have you ever taken the the time to call in for a wellness check of one you felt was suicidal (we have), have you lifted one finger (besides the one you are giving us now), to do anything other than to be critical? We are parents, we are grandparents,we are aunts and uncles. Everyday we meet the needs of our children. Some of them are grown to care for families of their own (yes, we didn't kill them when they were young and helpless). So you know what.. we can sit our fat lazy butts on this computer all day and speculate.. but we don't...we volunteer, we raise our grandchildren, we raise awareness.... we play with our children and help them grow into responsible adults... And you know why... BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCE WE HAVE IN THIS WHOLE WORLD.

I don't know why you joined this forum, but it appears your agenda was to do nothing with what we are about ..... there are a million of you out there like you......all mouth and no action! You don't need us and WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED YOU.

So please, do us all a big favor and take it somewhere else, please.

alwaysbelieve wrote:

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

Well now, it would seem that you have the same fixation, otherwise why would you even be here to run your mouth in the first place??? You must have taken the time to read our blog in order for you to form an opinion, no matter how far out in left field it is, your brain/body has also turned into mush. You have no idea what some of our members have done/are doing, for not only their own children/grandchildren but, for children they don't even know, they are being a voice for those that have no voice, a voice for the abused/neglected & MURDERED children, can you say the same thing?? I suggest you clean out your own closet before worrying about someone else's.

inmyfloridaopinion wrote:

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

Why don't you start your own forum that expresses your own views instead of attacking us?

MysticOne wrote:

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

While I respect your right to have an opinion (even though it is apparent you haven't done your research before voicing it - but then you know what they say about opinions.. everyone has one.. just like..., well you know what I am saying).

I just have one, and only one question to ask of you, and I pray you answer honestly... what have you done for these children lately????? .

Have you searched for a missing one (we have).. have you posted information in the hopes that a missing one is found (we have, and they have), have you invested your time and energy into the research of such cases (we have)...have you ever taken the the time to call in for a wellness check of one you felt was suicidal (we have), have you lifted one finger (besides the one you are giving us now), to do anything other than to be critical? We are parents, we are grandparents,we are aunts and uncles. Everyday we meet the needs of our children. Some of them are grown to care for families of their own (yes, we didn't kill them when they were young and helpless). So you know what.. we can sit our fat lazy butts on this computer all day and speculate.. but we don't...we volunteer, we raise our grandchildren, we raise awareness.... we play with our children and help them grow into responsible adults... And you know why... BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCE WE HAVE IN THIS WHOLE WORLD.

I don't know why you joined this forum, but it appears your agenda was to do nothing with what we are about ..... there are a million of you out there like you......all mouth and no action! You don't need us and WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED YOU.

So please, do us all a big favor and take it somewhere else, please.

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

And why don't you just get off this blog and leave these good people alone, they are only doing good for children. We do not need your negativism here and here is my little emoticon for you. I am sick of the way my friends are treated by you and your cohorts.

Everlast wrote:

Admin wrote:Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that they were drugging Nicholas. Tom posted another case that is similar to this one, were BOTH parents were charged for doing basically the same exact thing.

There probably isn't much else to keep that "no doubt" company either.

Again, with the wild, irresponsible fantasies -- you're truly living up to everything I said in my first post. Realize that these theories exist within your own warped imagination.

Now, go spend a day crafting your next reply so your lap-dogs and trained seals here can post little clappy emoticons and you can all feel good about yourselves for another day.

Or better yet, get off your butt and do something in real life for real children/your own kids -- go out for some fresh air.

This internet, chat-room fixation is obviously turning your brain and your body into mush.

MIZBELLA wrote:Now I will post my well crafted adult response to you Everlast. HOW DARE YOU assume that the people of this forum do nothing more than sit on their butts all day and play arm chair detectives? What have you done lately to prevent another child from being kidnapped, exploited, abused or MURDERED!! Did you trudge through knee to waist deep bug infested vegatation and brush searching for the lifeless body of a 2 1/2 year old child and continued on no matter how hot, tired, or thirsty you were out of love and compassion for a child you did not even know? Did you donate food and water and manpower to TES and do so with a pure heart regardless of who's child it was that was being searched for? Did you pass out flyers? Did you contact your congressman regarding the child abuse laws in your state? Well many, many members of this forum have and will continue to do so. You can call me an arm chair detective and you can say I am physically and mentally turning to mush, in fact you can call me whatever it is that you like.... If it prevents another child from being kidnapped, exploited, abused or MURDERED!! bring on the mud slinging and name calling. I have broad shoulders and I have been called much worse. We as a group have united to be the voice for the smallest victims...and we will not be deterred. I think you need to do some serious soul searching and decide why it is you are really here on "OUR" blog? I know why I am here. Maybe you should think about all the small children is this world who suffer at the hands of so called loved ones ..... the ones who suffer from being drugged, beaten, starved, sexually abused, and left like they are yesterdays trash. Could you look into the eyes of a small child who lives a life of hell and turn the other cheek? I can't and I won't. I pray that you never have the pleasure of encountering a child who has suffered such devastation. I hope you never have to look into the eyes of a child who's sparkle has turned to dull and blank... a child who is so broken that you don't know how to fix them. In closing I hope the lord touches your heart and you find compassion and love to also be a voice for the children that are being forgotten in our society everyday.