NICHOLAS ODZE - 4 yo (2009)/ Charged: Mother; Raisa Bernabe - Coral Springs FL

kiwimom wrote:

TomTerrific0420 wrote:

Bravo Admin! Bravo!

You're wonderful Melissa!

• Lunesta comes with an extra patient
  information sheet called a Medication Guide. Read it carefully. Read it
  again each time you get Lunesta refilled.
  
• Take Lunesta by mouth. Do not take Lunesta with or immediately after a high-fat, heavy meal.
  
• Swallow Lunesta whole. Do not break, crush, or chew before swallowing unless your doctor tells you to.
  
• Lunesta works very quickly. Only take it
  immediately before or just after going to bed to decrease the risk of
  falling and other side effects.
  
• If you miss a dose of Lunesta and you are
  taking 1 dose daily at bedtime, skip the missed dose. Do not take the
  dose in the morning or take 2 doses at once.
  

Admin wrote:Dear Raisa,

I am writing you an open letter in the hopes you will seek further professional help. The ONLY reason I have tolerated your behavior on this forum thus far, is because of your son. This is truly a unique situation for all of us, and frankly, it has become extremely uncomfortable.

This is a discussion forum, mainly devoted to seeking justice for Caylee Anthony. Over the past year, we have expanded our efforts to become a voice for all children that have been abused, neglected, kidnapped or murdered. We don't just post their names and then leave it at that, although sometimes, there just is nothing more to be said. In your situation, that isn't the case. Many of us follow these stories, and post more information as it becomes available. And when there is an unsolved mystery, we discuss it, we dig, we question and we try to find answers, for the children. Another little Florida girl was the catalyst for our expansion, you may have heard of her? Her name is Haleigh Cummings.

Raisa, we all do this without any compensation, because we love children. None of us are here to make one red cent. Trust me, it takes considerable time, energy and effort, to keep a place like this running, and the mods here do a marvelous job. And they do it as a labor of love, as do I. We are a family here, all drawn together to seek justice for one defenseless little girl, and now, to seek that same justice for other children whose voices have been silenced in the dawn of their lives. There is not a person here that would pass you by if we saw you starving on the street, and we are not passing you by right now, when you are so obviously in pain and starving for attention.

I do hope you understand a little better now about who we are and what we are about.

That being said, I am going to give you my observations, and I do hope you will respond in the same civil manner in which you have been addressed.

Normally, if you were not posting here, Raisa, I would've stated what I am about to say days ago. It is completely obvious to all us of here. I refrained from posting in deference to your pain. However, again, this is a discussion forum, where we discuss things. You cannot possibly hope to censor every media outlet or discussion forum, and you certainly are not going to censor this one. I do feel your pain, I have a tremendous amount of empathy and compassion for you, but at the same time, I am truly concerned for Nicholas' legacy.

I was waiting for the toxicology report to come back, because I had a feeling it was going to show something more than the Lunesta.

Raisa, we all make mistakes as parents, but I have to say, in my 20 years of parenting, I never, ever gave my child one of my prescription medications. Never. Let alone a sleeping pill. One bad decision does not make you a bad parent, no one is saying you were not a good mother. However, you have said some other things that are very concerning, and when those statements are combined with the tox report, well, it isn't painting a very pretty picture.

If you are going to go through with your press conference, I would suggest to you that you NOT announce your intention of getting a black label law passed in Florida. There are already laws in place to protect children from prescription meds, such as child safety caps, the warning labels, "Keep out of Reach of Children." Furthermore, to this day, even though my children are beyond the age where I have to watch their every move, I still have cabinet locks on my cabinets, and the medication cabinet is up high, out of reach. Locked.

Let me tell you a little story. One of my children once was on a very strong medication. He took it every morning, and I had to halve it in a pill splitter for him. One morning, I was in a hurry to get the kids to school, and I left the pill splitter on the kitchen counter, with the other half of the pill in it....I rushed three of my children to school that morning and then came home and got busy with my day of laundry and cleaning, etc. Meanwhile, my two year-old, unbeknownst to me, had wandered into the kitchen and somehow managed to snatch the pill splitter off the counter top. Moments later, I walked into the kitchen, saw the pill splitter on the floor, and I was immediately flooded with fear. My two year-old was now wandering merrily into the living room. I picked up the splitter and the other half of the pill was gone. Now mind you, I did not know if my baby had actually ingested the pill, but the FIRST thing I did was scoop him up and call the Poison Control Center. The number is always on my fridge. It's also in the front of any phone book. After describing what had happened, they reassured me that because of the type of medication, and the small dose, that no adverse reaction would be forthcoming. They told me he would probably, if he had in fact ingested the half pill, fall asleep. Indeed he did. And I stayed on the phone with Poison Control most of that day. They call back to check on things. They are wonderful! If it had been anything more extreme, they would've had me rush him to the ER, but again, because of the type of medication and the small dose, thankfully, it wasn't that serious. I can tell you I never left the pill splitter out again, though. And my first reaction was to get help. I'm astounded, Raisa, that you would even consider giving a small child an adult prescription medication. Astounded.

I'm also astounded that you or your husband would leave so many medications within reach of your child. I'm baffled by the toxicology report as well. Why were there only traces of the other drugs found in Nicholas' system? If Nicholas had ingested the pills just prior to his demise, wouldn't the drugs have been more prevalent in his system? It seems to me that more than just traces would have been found. I'm no rocket scientist, but the fact the tox screen took months to come back, combined with the traces of very strong narcotics found in Nicholas' system, suggests something more than what you are saying, Raisa. Frankly, to the untrained eye, such as mine, it suggests Nicholas had been given meds before. You are correct, Raisa when you say one Lunesta could not have killed Nicholas. Unfortunately, it wasn't just one Lunesta.

I'm also very curious why the police haven't made an arrest. While I admire and commend your husband's public service as a police officer, I have to wonder if it is because of his background that someone isn't sitting in jail right now? I'm pretty sure if one of my children turned up dead and I admitted to giving them a sleeping pill, and then all those other drugs were found in their system, I'd be in jail. Period.

You've said that you've been Baker-Acted 5 times in the last few
months. Evidently, you also took off at some point, too and had people
searching for you. You've said you will stop at nothing until you are
with Nicholas. This is scary, and I think you know that. I also know
you have a therapist who is helping you, and I would strongly encourage
you, again, to speak with him or her. Your threats of suicide prompted me the first time you came here, months ago, to Baker Act you myself. Evidently, four other people have seen the same thing. Your threats of harming yourself also prevented any type of discussion of your son's case. It worked last time, Raisa, but it isn't going to work this time. We are going to discuss this, and we are going to figure out what happened to Nicholas.

You can help us or you can impede us. I told you yesterday, you could be Nicholas' best advocate right now. All you have to do is tell the rest of the story. You are the only one who knows what really happened.

kiwimom wrote:I received this today from "Raisa" by PM.


From Raisa To kiwimom, Yesterday at 10:54 pmDear Kiwimim:

I took luneast AT AT 8:30 AT AT 11:30 i WILL STILL AWIDE AWAK YOU DUMB
STRIP POLE DANCER HOOKER. gO BACK TO THE JOB YOU KNOW BEST. yOU ARE
ABVIOUSLY NOT A DOCTOR OR EVEN A REGISTERED MEDICAL TECHNICIAN. wHICH
ONLY REQUIRES 9 MONTHS OF TRAINING.

sEND ME TO MY PERSOANL EMAIL
OR IR YOU WANT TO BECOME A PARTTIME DETECTIVE MAYBE SHELTON MIGHT HAVE
AN OPENING FOR YOU AT $9.00 AN HOUR.



I don't believe you are Nicholas's mother. You have never said anything about what happened that wasn't already in the news. What's more, you keep going on about whores, pole dancing etc so I don't even think you are a woman. You're not fooling me. Shame on you.

mermaid55 wrote:PM to me from Raisa.........

Raisa Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:34 pmObvioulsy, you have never lost achild. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.
Nicholas is everything to me.

I will wold a news conference on Monday and the the attorney will represent the family and state the facts.

I would never given Nicholas a combination of all those pills they are sayng on the tox report.
I gave him ONE lunesta, like I told Detective Shelton.
I have nothing further to say until Monday.

Like I said Nicholas was everything and only child.

My only purpose if to pass a law stating a black ban on all those doctors (drug dealers) that are prescribing pills to everyone in this world to put a black warning label like on cigarettes.
It will be called the Nicholas Alan Odze Law.

Please do not print this and I am sure Melissa will follow up on it on Monday, which is ok.

Also, Kiwimom referred me to the Casey whatever her name is and I do not want anything to do with Kiwiwhatever.

I adore NICHOLAS AND NOTHING WILL STOP ME from wanting to be with him. ALSO, I HAVE been Baker Act three times (since September)and attempted suicide 5 times. So don't bother yourself calling the police.

I have to state the facts on Monday and the Attorney will pass the law on behalf of my beloved son Nicholas.




Raisa

MIZBELLA wrote:

mermaid55 wrote:PM to me from Raisa.........

Raisa Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:34 pmObvioulsy, you have never lost achild. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.
Nicholas is everything to me.

I will wold a news conference on Monday and the the attorney will represent the family and state the facts.

I would never given Nicholas a combination of all those pills they are sayng on the tox report.
I gave him ONE lunesta, like I told Detective Shelton.
I have nothing further to say until Monday.

Like I said Nicholas was everything and only child.

My only purpose if to pass a law stating a black ban on all those doctors (drug dealers) that are prescribing pills to everyone in this world to put a black warning label like on cigarettes.
It will be called the Nicholas Alan Odze Law.

Please do not print this and I am sure Melissa will follow up on it on Monday, which is ok.

Also, Kiwimom referred me to the Casey whatever her name is and I do not want anything to do with Kiwiwhatever.

I adore NICHOLAS AND NOTHING WILL STOP ME from wanting to be with him. ALSO, I HAVE been Baker Act three times (since September)and attempted suicide 5 times. So don't bother yourself calling the police.

I have to state the facts on Monday and the Attorney will pass the law on behalf of my beloved son Nicholas.




Raisa

Regardless if there is a black label on the bottle.....the label won't prevent a 4 year olds small hands from getting into things that are left within his reach....responsible parents are a 4 year olds black label for not getting into things that they should not have access to in the first place.

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kiwimom wrote:I received this today from "Raisa" by PM.


From Raisa To kiwimom, Yesterday at 10:54 pmDear Kiwimim:

I took luneast AT AT 8:30 AT AT 11:30 i WILL STILL AWIDE AWAK YOU DUMB
STRIP POLE DANCER HOOKER. gO BACK TO THE JOB YOU KNOW BEST. yOU ARE
ABVIOUSLY NOT A DOCTOR OR EVEN A REGISTERED MEDICAL TECHNICIAN. wHICH
ONLY REQUIRES 9 MONTHS OF TRAINING.

sEND ME TO MY PERSOANL EMAIL
OR IR YOU WANT TO BECOME A PARTTIME DETECTIVE MAYBE SHELTON MIGHT HAVE
AN OPENING FOR YOU AT $9.00 AN HOUR.



I don't believe you are Nicholas's mother. You have never said anything about what happened that wasn't already in the news. What's more, you keep going on about whores, pole dancing etc so I don't even think you are a woman. You're not fooling me. Shame on you.

Admin wrote:Email from Raisa...

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From Raisa To Admin, Today at 20:01Under the advice of my attorney, she has refrained me from trying to tell my story on this forum.

Also, as far as Nicholas' father being a former NYPD, trust me they are not giving him or I "special" treatments.

As far as why I am not in "jail". Maybe you should call the DA.
I gave 100 percent cooperation and 5 months have passed and I still don't know a motherfucking thing.
Should I call the DA or DET Jill Shelton to come and arrest me.
I am already living in a prison of my own hell. In fact, a public execution would be a blesssing to me.

I apologize for the offensive words but I felt that Kiwimom and Tom Whatever pushed me to it.

I found out about the 4 month tox report on the internet and still nobody knows anything.

This will be all for now until you here any further.

Also,
delete the red from Kiwimom and Tom. I am really on the edge and I am
ready for any confrontation. I know Tom lives in Boston.