LISA IRWIN - 10 months (2011) - Kansas City MO

Clay County grand jury subpoenas TV footage in Lisa Irwin case

By GLENN E. RICE and ROBERT A. CRONKLETON, The Kansas City Star
Posted on Mon, Oct. 10, 2011 11:09 PM

A Clay County grand jury issued subpoenas Monday to all the local network TV affiliates, requesting any raw footage of interviews with missing infant Lisa Irwin’s family, friends or neighbors.

At the urging of police, the prosecutor’s office requested the subpoenas of an existing grand jury, a source said.

KCTV-5, The Star’s reporting partner, reported it had received the subpoena, as did WDAF, KMBC and KSHB.

The subpoena orders at least two of the stations to appear at 9 a.m. Oct. 18. It is unclear whether the stations would comply. KCTV said it was consulting with its attorney.

The subpoenas came one week after the 10-month-old baby disappeared from her bedroom, where her parents said she had been sleeping.

Investigators on Monday returned to the Irwin home in the 3600 block of North Lister Avenue, which is in Clay County, to search the backyard again.

A crime scene technician and several Kansas City detectives spent more than an hour at the home. It was unclear what they were looking for.

At one point, detectives looked in the neighbor’s backyard. One climbed partly over a privacy fence gate to release a latch. The other detectives then went inside the fenced area.

Meanwhile, other investigators interviewed a person at that residence. At one point, a woman came outside and sat on the front stoop as a man consoled her until a detective summoned her back inside. The woman soon left in a private vehicle.

The child’s disappearance continues to have an impact on the larger community. A North Kansas City School District official said that many of the district’s younger students have expressed fears about being kidnapped by a stranger.

“Our goal is to make sure all children attending our schools feel their school is a safe place,” said Mary Jo Burton, a district spokeswoman.

Earlier Monday, reports surfaced of a homeless man seen in the neighborhood in the weeks leading up to the girl’s possible kidnapping.

Norval C. Nichols, who lives about a block from Lisa’s home, said that police showed him a photograph last week of the homeless man and asked about any possible connection to the missing child. The man once was seen in the neighborhood riding a red bicycle, he said.

Nichols said he also saw the man about a week or two before Lisa was reported missing, but not afterward. The two men spoke briefly at a nearby park weeks ago. The man told Nichols that he was looking for a job or any handiwork in the neighborhood.

Capt. Steve Young, a police spokesman, said late Monday morning that there were no major new developments in the case.

“We continue to track down leads and tips,” Young said. “Any interesting ideas that detectives think to try, we are probably going to try it.”

Lisa was reported missing about 4 a.m. Oct. 4 after her father, Jeremy Irwin, returned home from work as an electrician and discovered she was gone from her bedroom.

Her mother, Deborah Bradley, told police she last saw Lisa at 10:30 p.m. Oct. 3 sleeping in her crib.

Police and federal authorities launched a massive search and interviewed her parents.

On Monday afternoon, 13-year-old Jeff Franz and 11-year-old JT Casady rode their bicycles to Lisa’s house and placed stuffed animals near signs expressing hope for the child’s safe return.

The two boys, who were off from school Monday, said they wanted Lisa to have the animals when she returned home.

To reach Glenn E. Rice, call 816-234-4341 or send e-mail to grice@kcstar.com. To reach Robert A. Cronkleton, call 816-234-4261 or send e-mail to bcronkleton@kcstar.com.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/10/3199501/clay-county-grand-jury-subpoenas.html#ixzz1aS6oO1Yr

Cops seek raw video in missing-baby case

By GLENN E. RICE and ROBERT A. CRONKLETON, Kansas City Star
Tuesday, Oct. 11, 2011, Last updated: 12:10 a.m.

A Clay County grand jury issued subpoenas Monday to all the local network TV affiliates requesting any raw footage of interviews with missing infant Lisa Irwin's family, friends or neighbors.

At the urging of police, the prosecutor's office requested the subpoenas of an existing grand jury, a source said.

KCTV-5, the Star's reporting partner, reported it had received the subpoena, as did WDAF, KMBC and KSHB.

The subpoena orders at least two of the stations to appear Oct. 18 at 9 a.m. It is not clear whether the stations will comply. KCTV said it was consulting with its attorney.

The subpoenas came one week after the 10-month-old baby disappeared from her bedroom where her parents said she had been sleeping.

Investigators on Monday returned to the Irwin home in the 3600 block of North Lister Avenue, which is in Clay County, to search the backyard again.

A crime scene technician and several Kansas City detectives spent more than an hour at the home. It was unclear what they were looking to find.

At one point, detectives looked in the neighbor's backyard. One climbed partly over a privacy fence gate to release a latch. The other detectives then went inside the fenced area.

Meanwhile, other investigators interviewed a person at that residence. At one point, a woman came outside and sat on the front stoop as a man consoled her until a detective summoned her back inside. The woman soon left in a private vehicle.

The child's disappearance continues to have an impact on the larger community. A North Kansas City School District official said that many of the district's younger students have expressed fears over being kidnapped by a stranger.

"Our goal is to make sure all children attending our schools feel their school is a safe place," said Mary Jo Burton, a district spokeswoman.

Earlier Monday, reports surfaced of a homeless man seen in the neighborhood in the weeks leading up to the girl's possible kidnapping.

Norval C. Nichols, who lives about a block from Lisa's home, said that police showed him a photograph last week of the homeless man and asked about any possible connection to the missing child. The man once was seen in the neighborhood riding a red bicycle, he said.

Nichols said he also saw the man about a week or two before Lisa was reported missing but not afterward. The two men spoke briefly at a nearby park weeks ago. The man told Nichols that he was looking for a job or any handy jobs in the neighborhood.

"He made me feel real uncomfortable," Nichols said. "Something was not right, so I eased off from him."

Capt. Steve Young, a police spokesman, said late Monday morning that there were no major new developments in the case.

"We continue to track down leads and tips," Young said. "Any interesting ideas that detectives think to try, we are probably going to try it."

Lisa was reported missing at about 4 a.m. Oct. 4, after her father, Jeremy Irwin, returned home from work as an electrician and discovered she was gone from her bedroom.

Her mother, Deborah Bradley, told police she last saw Lisa at 10:30 p.m. Oct. 3 sleeping in her crib.

Police and federal authorities launched a massive search and interviewed her parents.

Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2011/10/11/2057323/cops-seek-raw-video-in-missing.html#ixzz1aS7PIMaj

Police search drainage ditch behind missing baby's home
Posted: Oct 10, 2011 6:42 AM CDT
Updated: Oct 11, 2011 8:10 AM CDT

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

The search for Lisa Irwin is now in its eighth day, and an entire neighborhood continues to hope for good news.

"Everybody is praying for her," said Jasmine Thach, who lives near Lisa Irwin's Northland home.

This comes as police investigating Lisa's disappearance searched a neighbor's backyard Monday. Investigators also searched a drainage ditch behind baby Lisa's home.

About half a dozen investigators poked around behind the house. A clanking noise like bottles hitting each other could be heard.

"It doesn't look too good, you know, seeing investigators coming back-and-forth and back-and-forth," said Joseph Robinson. "They've got to be coming out here for something. Something ain't right."

A makeshift tribute to Lisa has sprung up at Chelsea Avenue and Lister Street near her home. Thach dropped off a stuffed bear Monday.

"It's sad," she said. "You need to go down there and give some love."

Lisa, who turned 11 months old Tuesday, was last seen a week ago. Her mother, Deborah Bradley, says she put the baby down about 10:30 p.m. last Monday. Her father, Jeremy Irwin, reported her missing at 4 a.m. Tuesday. He said he found her crib empty when he came home for work.

Neighbors say police interviewed them about a homeless man who frequents the area.

And police are struggling to find answers.

Kansas City police spokesman Steve Young told The Associated Press on Monday that detectives are pursuing leads but are, "at the mercy of the next good idea."

"Detectives are still tracking leads as we speak," said Young.

According to police, detectives were leaving in pairs from the command post Monday morning to track down information that came in over the weekend.

The investigation is being scaled back. More than 300 law enforcement officials were working to find Lisa last week. That is down to about 50.

Neighbor Norval Nichols said the past week has been filled with anxious moments for residents.

"It seems like yesterday. I just wish they would find her," he said.

On Sunday evening, a Northland street was packed as residents came together to pray for baby Lisa's safe return.

Dozens of friends, family and neighbors gathered, all wanting answers to the heartbreaking mystery and closure for the Irwin family.

"It shows that people care. I just want them to know that we care and what is best for everybody," said neighbor Vicki Nichols.

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Investigators spent another day on Sunday searching for clues.

Kansas City, MO, police arrived at baby Lisa's home mid-day Sunday.

Detectives reenacted the reported abduction by going into the baby's window where the alleged kidnapper entered late Monday into Tuesday before taking the 10-month-old baby.

Investigators recorded all their more than half-a-dozen attempts.

At the same time, police were called to Edwardsville, KS on a tip.

Detectives searched the wooded area where it went into the Kansas River.

Police said they received information that it is where baby Lisa's father had a job recently; they left empty-handed.

"It is a long amount of time, considering it is a baby abduction... so you talk about a 24-hour rule as being crucial amount of time you can throw that out," said Jeff Lanza, former FBI agent.

Lanza is following the baby Lisa case.

He said after a week, police probably have all they need at the family's home.

"They probably have covered every possible piece of evidence that they originally recovered at the scene, but sometimes you go over things again and find something else... you talk to people again, and they mention things they had not mentioned before," said Lanza.

What has surprised him about the investigation was a police news conference on Thursday night.

"What was unusual to me was that the police came out and said that the family was not cooperating. That was an unusual step in an investigation... from their standpoint," said Lanza.

As Day 7 arrived, more than 250 tips later, there still is no sign of baby Lisa, but the former agent said hope should not fade.

"You have got to keep hope alive. Even though time passes, things can happen at the flip of a switch and all of a sudden you have a case solved," said Lanza.

Police say the family is now cooperating.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15655082/hope-does-not-fade-in-search-for-baby-lisa

Posted on Tue, Oct. 11, 2011 08:27 AM
Aunt believes mother of missing Northland infant faces arrest
By ROBERT A. CRONKLETON and GLENN E. RICE, The Kansas City Star

An aunt of missing 10-month-old Lisa Irwin said on ABC's "Good Morning America" this morning that she believes police are about to arrest the girls’ mother.

Ashley Irwin said in the interview that Deborah Bradley’s arrest was inevitable.

“It is what the police do, they don’t have any leads so they have to pin it on somebody,” Irwin said.

Capt. Steve Young was not immediately available to comment this morning; however he told "Good Morning America" that was an absurd notion.

“We are under pressure to find a child,” Young said. “We are not under pressure to pin this on anybody or wrap it up or make an arrest.”

Today marks the one week mark of Lisa disappearance. Lisa was reported missing about 4 a.m. Oct. 4 after her father, Jeremy Irwin, returned home from work as an electrician and discovered she was gone from her bedroom.

Bradley told police she last saw Lisa at 10:30 p.m. Oct. 3 sleeping in her crib. Police and federal authorities launched a massive search and interviewed her parents.

On Monday, a Clay County grand jury issued subpoenas to all the local network TV affiliates, requesting any raw footage of interviews with missing infant Lisa Irwin’s family, friends or neighbors.

At the urging of police, the prosecutor’s office requested the subpoenas of an existing grand jury, a source said.

KCTV-5, The Star’s reporting partner, reported it had received the subpoena, as did WDAF, KMBC and KSHB.

The subpoena orders at least two of the stations to appear at 9 a.m. Oct. 18. It is unclear whether the stations would comply. KCTV said it was consulting with its attorney.

Investigators on Monday returned to the Irwin home in the 3600 block of North Lister Avenue, which is in Clay County, to search the backyard again.

A crime scene technician and several Kansas City detectives spent more than an hour at the home. It was unclear what they were looking for.

At one point, detectives looked in the neighbor’s backyard. One climbed partly over a privacy fence gate to release a latch. The other detectives then went inside the fenced area.

Meanwhile, other investigators interviewed a person at that residence. At one point, a woman came outside and sat on the front stoop as a man consoled her until a detective summoned her back inside. The woman soon left in a private vehicle.

The child’s disappearance continues to have an impact on the larger community. A North Kansas City School District official said that many of the district’s younger students have expressed fears about being kidnapped by a stranger.

“Our goal is to make sure all children attending our schools feel their school is a safe place,” said Mary Jo Burton, a district spokeswoman.

Earlier Monday, reports surfaced of a homeless man seen in the neighborhood in the weeks leading up to the girl’s possible kidnapping.

Norval C. Nichols, who lives about a block from Lisa’s home, said that police showed him a photograph last week of the homeless man and asked about any possible connection to the missing child. The man once was seen in the neighborhood riding a red bicycle, he said.

Nichols said he also saw the man about a week or two before Lisa was reported missing, but not afterward. The two men spoke briefly at a nearby park weeks ago. The man told Nichols that he was looking for a job or any handiwork in the neighborhood.

Ashley Irwin told Good Morning America that she has no doubt that Bradley was not involved in the infant’s disappearance.

“She is genuine,” she said. “She loves that child. It is her baby. She would never do anything to hurt her.”

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/11/3200177/aunt-believes-mother-faces-arrest.html#ixzz1aU3WdR00

10:19 am ET October 11, 2011
Reports: Baby Lisa Mom, Deborah Bradley Preparing to Be Arrested
by America's Newsroom

In the latest on the investigation into the disappearance of Kansas City baby Lisa Irwin, the search has lead to a receipt at a local grocery store.

Investigators watched surveillance tape of Deborah Bradley and an unidentified man at a Foods Festival grocery store, where they can be seen buying a box of wine, paper plates and napkins at around 5:00 p.m. on October 3, hours before Lisa Irwin went missing.

Captain Steve Young of Kansas City Police Department joined Martha MacCallum by phone to discuss the latest details of the case.

(Video at link)

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/11/reports-baby-lisa-mom-deborah-bradley-preparing-to-be-arrested/

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Police denied a claim Tuesday that the mother of
missing 10-month-old Lisa Irwin is preparing to be arrested in
connection to the baby's disappearance.Pictures: Missing Kansas City infant
Sgt. Stacey Graves of the Kansas City Police Department told FoxNews.com that, "We have heard nothing from detectives to lead us to believe an arrest is imminent."
Ashley Irwin, the aunt of the missing girl, told ABC News early
on Tuesday that the arrest of the child's mother, Deborah Bradley, was
"inevitable." Irwin said the police had been focusing on the family
rather than more "viable" suspects.
"It's what the police do," Ashley Irwin said. "They don't have any leads so they just have to pin it on somebody."
Graves,
however, has told FoxNews.com that police have "no suspects" and "are
continuing the investigation until Lisa is found."
"We are still actively following up on leads and tips as they come in," she said.
Lisa
was reportedly last seen last week on Monday around 10:30 p.m. when her
mother Deborah Bradley put her to bed in a crib, police said.
Lisa's
parents reported her missing last Tuesday morning after her father,
electrician Jeremy Irwin, returned home from work. Her parents said
someone must have crept into their home while the child's mother and
brothers slept and snatched the baby girl.
Meanwhile, Kansas City
television stations were subpoenaed Monday to submit footage of
interviews with friends and family of a missing 10-month-old girl.
Police
have said they have no suspects in the case. But neighbors say they
have been questioned about a homeless man seen in the neighborhood about
two weeks ago.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20118558-504083.html

Search for Lisa Irwin moves to well at nearby vacant house

Posted: 10:34 AM
By: Aaron Heintzelman
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - The search for 10-month-old Lisa Irwin has brought investigators to a vacant house about a block and a half away from her home.
Police are performing a focused search at the home, in the 3800 block of North Brighton Avenue.
Kansas City police spokeswoman Stacey Graves said they are looking specifically at a well on the property and trying to get inside it to perform a search.
She was not aware what brought investigators to the scene.
The Kansas City Fire Department has been called in to help assist in the search.
Lisa has been missing since last Tuesday, Oct. 4, when her father says he returned home from work to find her not inside her crib.
Investigators with the Kansas City Police Department and the FBI have been searching for Lisa ever since. Hundreds of tips have come into police, but Capt. Steve Young says none have turned into viable leads into her location or a potential suspect in her disappearance.


Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/search-for-lisa-irwin-moves-to-nearby-vacant-house#ixzz1aUM6xyv0

Wanna know what I think?
I feel that Little Lisa died accidentally while in the care of her mother. She may be more responsible than that but for the sake of argument I'll go with that for now. Either way she feels so guilty and had no way of explaining what happened that she is ultimately responsible for the her disappearance. Mark my words... the answer resides in that home.

Search of Well Continues For Missing 10-Month Old



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KC firefighters & police searching a 20-30 foot deep well near Baby Lisa's house. #LisaIrwin
5 minutes ago

Well search reveals nothing in Lisa case

Posted: 10:34 AM
Last Updated: 1 hour and 10 minutes ago

* By: Aaron Heintzelman

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - The search for a 10-month-old Kansas City girl reported missing a week ago today brought members of the Kansas City police and fire departments and the FBI to a vacant house about a half-mile away from the girl's home home.

Lisa Irwin was reported missing last Tuesday, Oct. 4, when her father says he returned home from work to find her not inside her crib.

After arriving to the house at about 10:30 a.m. this morning, authorities set up a tripod around a well underneath a deck on the home in the 3800 block of North Brighton. Two investigators, sent down one at a time, rappelled into the well.

Before they descended into the well, they performed an air quality test inside the well to ensure it is safe to enter, authorities on scene said. The well is about three feet wide and roughly 25 feet deep, according to investigators on scene.

A little before 12:30 p.m., two water trucks arrived on the scene and appeared to be preparing to pump the water from the well. Kansas City police spokeswoman Stacey Graves said there is several feet of water at the bottom of the well.

Members of the Kansas City Fire Department told NBC Action News reporter Lindsay Shively Tuesday's search was not the result of a tip, but of a canvass of the neighborhood that discovered the well was underneath the home's porch.

But in a statement e-mailed to media, Kansas City spokeswoman Stacey Graves said "investigators received a tip about an abandoned house (3838 N Brighton) with a well in the area near Lisa Irwin's home."

Speaking over the phone at about 12 p.m. Tuesday, Graves said she expected authorities to remain on the scene for several hours.

NBC Action News investigator Ryan Kath spoke with the property owner, who said the house has been vacant for about two years, adding someone would have to look under the deck to know the well is there. He said he hasn't been by the property in several months, and was waiting to sell the house until a "better time."

The search of the well concluded around 2:20 p.m. Tuesday afternoon after about four hours. Nothing was found related to the case, police said.

Investigators with the Kansas City Police Department and the FBI have been searching for Lisa ever since. Hundreds of tips have come into police, but Capt. Steve Young says none have turned into viable leads into her location or a potential suspect in her disappearance.

This is not the first focused search in the Lisa Irwin case. Authorities have canvassed wooded and hilly areas in her neighborhood several times with metal detectors and scent-sniffing dogs, have spent several hours searching the Irwin home and on Friday, spent about two hours at a landfill in Johnson County, Kan., where trash from Lisa's neighborhood is taken.

None of the previous searches have resulted in anything fruitful, police have said.

Lisa lives in Clay County, Mo., and on Monday afternoon, a grand jury there subpoenaed NBC Action News and several other local and national media outlets , requesting all raw video footage of interviews by families and neighbors related to the case.

Paul Morrison is a former Johnson County, Kan. prosecutor. He is not directly involved in the case, but said Monday night investigators are probably doing everything they can to be thorough.

“They probably may or might not have a suspect or could be looking for all that tape, all that footage that TV stations took to see whether or not someone is giving a consistent story,” Morrison said.

Tuesday morning, Kansas City police spokesman Steve Young said claims on ABC News by Lisa Irwin's aunt that Deborah Bradley was prepared to be charged and felt that her arrest was "inevitable" were " a little bit of a stretch " and insisted no suspects had been developed.

Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/search-for-lisa-irwin-moves-to-nearby-vacant-house#ixzz1aVbo9NLU

Irwin family seeks assistance from private investigator

Posted by Lee Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Labels: Lisa Irwin
Posted: 9:59 PM

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - In an Tuesday evening news conference, Bill Stanton, a private investigator hired by the Irwin family said he has been asked by the family to help find Lisa.

Surrounded by a sea of family and supporters wearing T-shirts bearing the image of the missing girl, Stanton asked for cooperation from the media in respecting the family's boundaries.

Stanton said he does not expect the FBI or law enforcement officials to share any information with him, however he said he will turn over anything he finds to them.

He asked that the citizens of Kansas City keep one eye open for Lisa.

Lisa Irwin's parents reported her missing after her father got home from work about 4 a.m. Oct. 4. Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin said a window on their home had been tampered with, and they believe someone abducted their daughter while Bradley and the couple's two sons slept nearby.


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Private Investigator Takes on Lisa Irwin Investigation

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KANSAS CITY, Mo.—
As day eight in the search for 10-month-old Lisa Irwin drew to a close, the family released a statement via private investigator Bill Stanton.

Just before 10 p.m., the family of Lisa Irwin gathered behind Stanton who spoke on the family's behalf. However, Lisa's parents were not there.


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"I am not here to defend or represent anyone," Staton said. "I have been asked to come out here to find Lisa and to find the perpetrator or perpetrators. ... I'm here to seek the truth, and wherever that truth takes me, that's where I'm going to go."

Stanton said the family will have more information to release soon, but not at this time. In addition, Stanton said while he knows law enforcement may not share information regarding the investigation, he said he would be happy and willing to share any information he uncovers with detectives.

In his brief statement, Stanton also had a message for the people of Kansas City.

You can read more and video at :
http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-lisa-irwin-family-hires-private-investigator-releases-statement-20111011,0,896224.story

Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Q & A: Lisa Irwin Missing 11 Month Old

Baby Lisa Irwin, now 11 months, was reported missing more than a week ago, as an Amber Alert was issued. Her parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, reported that Jeremy came home at 4AM, found all the lights on, the window ajar, and the front door unlocked, intimating that she had been kidnapped by the rarest of all kidnappings: Stranger Abduction. We learned from experts that as rare as this is, most children are found alive. The following is Question and Answer regarding the case from the unique perspective of Statement Analysis as well as behavioral analysis and some of the revealed facts.

Q. Is the intruder theory viable?
A. No.

The logistics do not work. A stranger would have had to have come through the front window, make it to Lisa's room, stop to get three cell phones, yet be undetected coming and going with the baby. We learned that Deborah had a baby monitor on in Lisa's room, and more so, that they have a black lab mix who barks at those she does not know, right outside.


Q. You did Statement Analysis from the appearances of the parents. Was there enough sample to make a conclusion?
A. Yes. I have concluded that Deborah is deceptive.

Q. What about the father?
A. There are indicators of deception within his statements as well, but it appears strongly that Deborah is directly involved.

Q. What do you make of the surveillance video? Some have dismissed it as irrelevant.
A. If the mother did not report that she went to a store, at 5PM, and purchased wine, to the police, it becomes highly significant. The aunt was asked, "who is the male in the video?" of which she answered, "no comment" meaning that the identity of the male is sensitive.

Q. What do you make of the language of the parents?
A. Statements represent the speaker (subject) and his or her view of reality; not necessary reality.

Lights are to be noted.

The inclusion of "lights" being turned on, turned off, are often indicated in statements showing sexual activity. Sometimes lights being turned off are associated with sexual dysfunction.

Q. What of Jeremy's speculation about who is responsible?
A. Both parents rarely speak in the first person singular, which, according to research, shows a weakness. Dillingham reports that this is often done to share guilt, feeling that it will not be so strong if it is "shared" goes the thinking. I agree.

Both parents began with "we have no idea" which is something that should never be accepted. Shortly after making these statements, we learned that they submitted a list of names of possible suspects which may have been as many as nine. This shows that they did have some idea.

When interviewed about who "might" have done such a thing, Jeremy said, "a woman who cheated on her husband", stopping himself at the word "husband." This reflects the notion of sexuality.

We learned that police sought and collected the DNA of a neighbor. This is yet another indicator that sexuality is involved.

Q. What do you make of the parents avoiding using the name, "Lisa" so often?
A. In all the video that I have seen, the parents have either used her name rarely, or in most, not at all.

This is generally found in parents that abuse their children, giving strength to the possibility that Lisa died as a result of child abuse, perhaps shaken baby syndrome, or that she was caught in the crosshairs of a violent confrontation between parents, or between parents and a third party.

The lack of use of her name indicates a de-personalizing of Lisa. This is an attempt to distance, particularly Deborah, from Lisa. We expect a parent to use their child's name, nicknames, terms of endearment, along with pronouns. I have heard the nickname, but that was in context of what "the boys" call her.

I am reminded of their statement about Lisa keeping them together, as well; which indicates a problem in the union. Although they are not married, they may consider themselves so, engaged, which may be how Jeremy perceives infidellity.

Q. What do you make of the body language?
A. I am not a body language expert but I do have an opinion.

They refuse, on most questions, to speak for themselves, which is unusual, especially for a mother who's protective instincts are inflamed. The lack of "I" in their statements concerns me, but I notice that when he is speaking, she looks up at his face, staring, which appears to be a form of "studying:" She appears anxious over what he is about to say.

Q. What do you make of the aunt's statements?
A. They indicate what the family is thinking.

Jeremy and Deborah praised police early on. This is unusual and a red flag for me. Why? Because parents of missing children do not have acceptance of a "good job" while the child is missing. There is an impatience. Sometimes the guilty praise police, early on, in order to make it seem like they are all on the same team, when, in fact, the police are asking pointed questions indicating guilt on the part of the family member.

The aunt said that Deborah expects arrest, now, which, according to the aunt, is because police don't know what they are doing. Her short statement also indicates that she is deceptive (as she announces that she is going to be honest) and knows more than she is telling.

She was asked the identity of the male on the video and declined to answer. She may know if Deborah is, indeed, cheating on Jeremy, which points to conflict.

It may be that Lisa has died as a result of being "put to sleep" rather than "put to bed" (choice of words by Deborah) followed by "and that' the last time we saw her"; changing pronouns, giving yet another signal for analysis that has concluded deception.

I think Lisa died as a result of conflict, and that the parents have hidden her body.

Q. Why aren't the talking heads saying she is deceptive?
A. Some may not believe it; a few are saying some things, but on television, there is also a "rush to not judge" which is afforded to some cases, but others are "judged" quickly.

The reality is that all of us have an opinion, which is not a final judgement; but some may be concerned more about not giving a direct opinion for fear of being wrong than anything else.

Q. How often are you wrong?
A. Heather says "you're always wrong, Peter; that's what's so right about you."

Please submit your questions for analysis in the comments section.

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Mom caught on video hours before baby Lisa went missing

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Prominent PI joins search for missing baby
Posted: Oct 11, 2011 10:43 PM CDT Updated: Oct 12, 2011 7:34 AM CDT

Excerpt:

Young stressed that private investigators are not sworn officers and the department is currently checking on what police are obligated to enforce as far as Stanton not being licensed to work in Missouri.

More: http://www.kctv5.com/story/15671844/private-investigator-now-assisting-in-search-for-missing-baby-lisa

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Kansas City Stations Refuse to Share Raw Footage with Investigators in Lisa Irwin Case

By Andrew Gauthier on October 12, 2011 12:26 PM

After receiving grand jury subpoenas requesting that they share video footage connected to the disappearance of 10-month-old Lisa Irwin, Kansas City stations plan to cooperate with investigators but are making an important distinction: they will submit footage that has aired but will not hand over raw footage, as the Clay County prosecutor’s office has requested.

Jim Roberts, a spokesman for the prosecutor’s office, told the Associated Press this week that the subpoenas were intended to prevent KMBC, KCTV, KSHB, and WDAF from discarding footage of the girl’s family and neighbors.

KCTV and KSHB were both ordered to bring their raw footage to the Clay County courthouse next Tuesday. Both stations are now being represented by attorney Bernard J. Rhodes, who told the Kansas City Star that he referred authorities to a video clipping service that the stations use and a list of stories that have been aired.

While KCTV and KSHB, as well as KMBC, have so far declined to comment publicly on the matter, WDAF news director Bryan McGruder has been pointed in his response to the subpoenas.

“We comply with all subpoenas,” McGruder said, “but we do not release raw material.”

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/kansas-city-stations-refuse-to-share-raw-footage-with-investigators-in-lisa-irwin-case_b25160

Lisa Irwin search moves to Kansas City woods

11:38 AM, Oct 12, 2011
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - Kansas City police are preparing to search woods near the home where a baby was reported missing last week.

Police said the search Wednesday for 10-month-old Lisa Irwin would include several acres west of the family's home.

The child's parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, reported their daughter missing late last Tuesday. Jeremy Irwin said he noticed the child was gone when he returned from a late shift at work. The parents say they suspect someone entered the home and abducted the baby.

Police said the search Wednesday was not prompted by a tip and would likely involve using all-terrain vehicles and horses.

On Tuesday, police searched a nearby abandoned home and cistern, while more than 30 detectives pursued additional leads. Police have said there are no suspects.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/281024/3/Lisa-Irwin-search-moves-to-Kansas-City-woods

Why no call to TES?

mom_in_il wrote:Why no call to TES?

Hmmm....that's a good question. Makes one wonder for sure. Wish the stupid parents would speak up and tell where/what they did to her.

Oct 12, 10:21 PM EDT

NY man: Benefactor asked he help find missing baby

MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER and BILL DRAPER
Associated Press

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- A New York-based security consultant who said he was hired by a wealthy benefactor to help search for a missing baby in Kansas City got little response Wednesday from police who have been looking for the child for more than a week.

Police said Bill Stanton, who declined to say who hired him, won't have access to any case files related to their search for Lisa Irwin because he isn't law enforcement. He also doesn't appear to be licensed as a private investigator in Missouri as required when acting in that capacity.

"He will have access to anything the general public has access to," Kansas City police spokesman Capt. Steve Young said.

When asked by the Associated Press if he has handled a missing child case, Stanton said he couldn't detail cases involving children, then responded "Google me" when asked to discuss any of his past cases. He said he has worked as a consultant for "major media organizations," and the website for a consulting firm that lists him as a founding partner said he was a New York police officer before moving into private investigative work.

Lisa's parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, reported their daughter missing early Oct. 4, saying she disappeared from her crib at their single-story home sometime overnight as her mother slept in a nearby room.

Hundreds of local, state and federal investigators have been looking for the child ever since, scouring through hundreds of tips and repeatedly searching the family's neighborhood, nearby woods, sewers and a landfill. But police said they have no suspects or solid leads.

Stanton said a wealthy "benefactor" connected to a family member asked him to get involved and acknowledged the family didn't hire him. Stanton said he would fly in other people on Thursday, but wouldn't elaborate.

He said he would be managing any media inquiries directed at the family, which family members confirmed. They said he had their support.

"I am hopeful this child is safe and alive," Stanton said. "I don't want to make this about me."

On Wednesday, detectives using all-terrain vehicles and tracking dogs searched a heavily wooded area a few blocks from the home, but it turned up nothing. Young said more than 40 detectives, along with the FBI and other police departments, are working the case.

What Stanton could offer the investigation is unclear.

Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, said his organization doesn't work with private investigators and had not heard of Stanton.

"Families in these situations are desperate and feel the need to do anything they can possibly do," Allen said. "I hope he helps them."

Jimmie Mesis, editor-in-chief of New Jersey-based PI Magazine, a trade magazine for private investigators, said he has heard of Stanton. He said Stanton's involvement could be troublesome if he interferes with witnesses, but he also could keep a national spotlight on the case - even if that attention is focused on "Wild Bill," a moniker for which Stanton has become popular.

"With Bill, one benefit, because he has celebrity status as a private investigator, the media is going to be interested in seeing what he's doing," Mesis said. Later, he added, "He's putting his reputation on the line, too."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BABY_MISSING_MOOL-?SITE=MOCAP&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Lisa Irwin case: More searches, no baby, pseudo-PI

Posted on October 13, 2011 by Valhall

Well, shades of the Anthony case continue to creep into the case of missing baby Lisa Irwin. We’ve got a sister of Jeremy Irwin going on morning news making statements that law enforcement has “got to pin it on someone” in reference to the questioning and investigation into Deborah Bradley’s story, and now we’ve got a self-described “PI to the stars” showing up in Kansas City.

Ashley Irwin had become something of a talking head for the family of Lisa Irwin. She was repeatedly making statements on the family’s behalf. In a recent interview on a morning program Ashley seemed to take a swipe at the Kansas City investigators for spending so much time investigating the activity of Deborah Bradley and attempting to substantiate the details of her story of the events on October 3rd/4th when baby Lisa disappeared. She said they were focusing on that instead of looking for suspects (sound familiar) ?

She took those statements back about as quickly as she made them, stating they were taken out of context. From what I saw I’m unclear how they could have been “taken out of context”, but whatever. It never ceases to amaze me that the people, or their families!, who are the last to have known control of a missing child are somehow surprised that they are investigated. 10-month-old babies don’t pack up their diaper bag and decide they’re “outta here” and waddle down the street to a new life.

Bill Stanton, a kind-a, sort-a, wanna-be PI showed up in Kansas City this week. He won’t say who the philanthropic funder of his trip to Kansas City is. He only states that he’s there to help find Lisa and to conduct an independent investigation. Lisa’s parents reportedly are not the ones who are paying for him. In a press conference Stanton said he was asking to have a meeting with law enforcement working the case. I’m sure they have time for that. Maybe they’ll not return his call for 2 or 3 days the same way Lisa’s parents did them last week (maybe LE will “just need a break”, huh? )

Meanwhile, law enforcement continues their unrelenting search for who should be focused on at this time, baby Lisa Irwin. Officers using search dogs and ATVs spent several hours on a heavily wooded piece of property near 36th Street and North Brighton Avenue yesterday (some reports state 34th Street). The property is about a half mile to the east of the Irwin residence where Lisa disappeared. Captain Mark Folsom with the Kansas City police department stated they were not there because of a tip, but because this was the first opportunity to search that specific property.

As far as we know law enforcement has still been unable to locate the three cell phones that Deborah and Jeremy claim were stolen from their house the night Lisa went missing. No mention has been made by law enforcement as to whether they have been able to obtain the needed cell phone records, or whether there has been activity on those phones since the night Lisa disappeared. At this point, it feels safe to assume there hasn’t been.

In the past couple of days we’ve watched police search a cistern at an abandoned house near the Irwin residence, and return yet again to the landfill. They are also running every lead possible on suspicious characters they get tips on. They’ve knocked on neighbors’ doors and asked them about a handyman in the area who goes by the name of “Jersey” and hangs out at a local bar named “One-Eyed Jacks”. It’s also reported they interviewed the barkeep at that location.

Fox4kc reports that law enforcement interviewed the parents again yesterday at a relatives home. They then returned to the Irwin residence entering the home empty-handed, but leaving with one envelope and a brown paper bag with something in it.

Valhall.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/10/13/lisa-irwin-case-more-searches-no-baby-pseudo-pi/

Hear Dispatch Tapes Moments After Baby Lisa Disappears
Situation Quickly Escalates

POSTED: 6:25 am CDT October 13, 2011
UPDATED: 11:38 am CDT October 13, 2011

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- KMBC 9 News exclusively obtained more than 12 hours of police dispatch tapes that help outline the moments following 11-month-old Lisa Irwin's disappearance.

KMBC's Martin Augustine listened to several hours of the tapes and reported that the situation quickly escalates after the initial call.

"Report of a residential burglary in progress," one of the dispatchers said on the tapes. "3620 North Lister. Contact Jeremy. Respond code 1."

Code 1 tells officers to respond to the scene quickly. Jeremy refers to Jeremy Irwin, the father of baby Lisa, who called police after returning from an overnight work shift on Oct. 4 to find her daughter missing.

"He noticed the screen is busted and 10-month-old daughter is missing," the dispatcher continues. "He advised he didn't witness anything. And they don't know how long she's been gone."

In the minutes following the initial dispatch, officers can be heard canvassing the neighborhood.

"How are you on your area canvass," one officer asks another.

"Finishing up with the neighbor from across the street now. I'll contact you in a minute," another officer responds.

"Call me on my cell ASAP," the other officer said.

Augustine said many conversations are not included on the tapes because officers communicated with each other on their cellphones.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29471219/detail.html#ixzz1agKTA7w9

Regarding the video of mom and unidentified male shopping - according to the report on the news it was "wine, baby food and baby wipes" that they bought and not paper plates and napkins as previously reported which made it sound like they were going on a picnic; but where were the children while they were at the store? I haven't seen that commented on. One thing did seem obvious in the video imo, it did not look like a romantic involvement.

Yes, bug...but why all the secrecy??? Is he a good friend? Did he drive her there? She has been there with him before according to one of the cashiers. It's quite possible he's a neighbor and she tagged along because she needed a few items. If so, why not reveal it? This, the cell phones and much more about this case smells bad to me. If Dad works a typical 8 hour shift and was getting home about 4AM that means that he was probably home (sleeping perhaps?) with the kiddos at this point in time.