Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo (2010) - Portland OR - Thread #2

[mom_in_il]

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Desiree-and-Kaine-to-speak-Friday-morning/BBjefkCtQEOFrHatXybG7g.cspx

On Friday, you can watch live as Kaine and Desiree hold a press conference at 11 a.m.

[mom_in_il]

Thinking out loud - if TH planned to get rid of kyron, I've been wondering why she would do that after attempting to get rid of Kaine. Then I thought what if the plan to get rid of Kaine WAS STILL IN THE WORKS but the gardener was supposed to wait until after Kyron went missing? Maybe the gardener got cold feet after TH carried through with the first part of the plan - Kyron, and spilled the beans.

---Perhaps the reverse is true. The gardener hot cold feet on going through with the MFH scheme and so she cooked up Plan "B"-the disappearance and/or murder of Kyron. I still think, psychologically, that her teen son figures into this somehow.

I'm wondering if the teen son was not living with TH because she wanted him out of harms way as the MFH and disappearance of Kyron unfolded . . .

[mom_in_il]

Kyron Horman case: Considering motives

Posted on July 29th, 2010 by Valhall

Excerpt:

I’m about to link a thread that in and of itself is very disturbing. Being a stepmother myself and living in what I recently learned was termed a “blended family” for some time now, I had no idea that there could be this many stepparents out there who harbored outright hatred of their stepchildren. Not until in my research I stumbled on to this thread – actually, I have to say this “forum” because this particular thread is only one of several with the attitudes voiced in this forum entitled “Stepfamily Forum”.

Then within that thread I’m going to be discussing a specific post. I want to say upfront that when I read it there was enough that made me fear it COULD be Terri Horman that I did, in fact, submit questions to a contact who I asked if Kaine Horman could answer in order to determine if it could be Terri. Kaine’s answers to those questions led me to believe this is NOT Terri Horman, but I can’t help but point out that somewhere out there is some child in a dangerous situation. And if the person who posted this comment takes issue with my opinion on that….they can go suck eggs.


READ MORE: http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/07/29/kyron-horman-case-considering-motives/

[mom_in_il]

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Desiree-and-Kaine-to-speak-Friday-morning/BBjefkCtQEOFrHatXybG7g.cspx

On Friday, you can watch live as Kaine and Desiree hold a press conference at 11 a.m.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=3969&navCatId=4

[oviedo45]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/

dateline posted the transcript
Little Boy Lost

[oviedo45]

http://www.katu.com/



http://www.koinlocal6.com/default.aspx



http://www.ktvl.com/

watch the press conference live - kyron horman's parents

[oviedo45]

http://www.justice4caylee.org/main-blog-f10/main-blogfriday-july-30-20101-t7693-240.htm

press conf play by play on page 17 of the main blog- starting at the bottom -

[mom_in_il]

There's talk on one of the Kyron sites about a possible homeless boy in Portland that resembles Kyron, and another report of a possible sighting of Kyron in a gold Sebring . . .

From Missing Kyron Horman on FB:
Simoni Helena Rodriguez-Usher There is a little
homeless boy who lives in a vacant garden that belongs to a school by me
who could be kyrons exact twin. Everything is the same just no glasses.
Every time I see him makes me wonder were kyron is. It is time to let
these parents have closure if you have him at least let him call. And if
you know something please just have a heart and tell what you know.


Scanner: http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=cwp&ctid=2230

[mom_in_il]

Kyron press conference:

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99643109.html?tab=video

[alwaysbelieve]

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20405659,00.html

Mom Believes Missing Kyron Horman Is 'Stashed' Somewhere

By Eunice Oh and Elaine Aradillas

Tuesday July 27, 2010 04:10 PM EDT

Kyron Horman has not been seen for almost two months, but the boy's mother, Desiree Young, is convinced her son is still alive.

"I believe that he’s stashed," Young told PEOPLE on Tuesday. "I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us."

The missing Oregon boy's father, Kaine Horman, echoes his ex-wife's belief that they will bring the 7-year-old home safely.

"Someone is going to spot him. We're going to get him," says Horman, though he adds he and Young have been stressed and frustrated because "it shouldn't have to take a while. It should be done by now."

They also suspect Kyron's stepmom, Terri Moulton Horman, planned his abduction and knows where Kyron is.

Young says Terri has "the big answer."

"I think it [was] arranged," adds Kaine. "We have no information that would lead us to believe that, but I think based on what Desiree and I know about [Terri], I think it's a plan. And I think she's still executing a plan."

[mom_in_il]

Kyron Horman case: Analyzing Terri’s story of June 4th

Posted on July 31st, 2010 by Valhall

Excerpt:

The following article is based on work performed by Hinky reader LuLu and her friend. They timed out driving times between locations Terri Horman is reported to have said she went to on the morning of June 4th.

According to the reports of what Terri told investigators about her movements on June 4th, she moved along the following path.

Horman residence -> Skyline Elementary ->Albertson’s -> Fred Meyer’s -> 1-1/2 hours on rural roads in the area surrounding the Horman residence -> 24-Hour Fitness center -> Horman residence

Now, concerning the two grocery stores, we do not know if she went to Albertson’s first or Fred Myer’s first, but for the sake of analyzing driving times and whether the movements can “fit” into the time available between 8:45 a.m. and 1:21 p.m. (at which time Terri posted Kyron’s picture on her Facebook), it really doesn’t matter which order she went to the two grocery stores, as you will soon see.

READ MORE: http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/07/31/kyron-horman-case-analyzing-terris-story-of-june-4th/

[TomTerrific0420]

Just read the above story on Hinky. Ya know--- I don't need no fancy-dancy timeline reconstruction to tell me who is responsible.
Just look at the actions and reactions of TH in the first few days after the "disappearance" and you know that she is the one behind all of these shenanigans.
TH you are going down like a homemade weather balloon!

[mom_in_il]

VIDEO LIBRARY - KYRON HORMAN

http://www.hulu.com/search?query=kyron+horman&st=1

[hawaiicalls]

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news...s-Kyron-Horman

PORTLAND, Ore. -- The first accounts of 7-year-old Kyron Horman's disappearance were a parent's nightmare: A boy vanishes from the safe haven of his elementary school.

But over the course of two months, shock has turned into frustration as the case has taken bizarre twists. Suspicion rests on the boy's stepmother, who is mute about what happened the morning the child disappeared, while lurid tales of infidelity and even a murder-for-hire plot swirl

[hawaiicalls]

2 Months Later, Where Is Kyron Horman?
KPTV POSTED: 10:23 am PDT July 31, 2010

The first accounts of 7-year-old Kyron Horman's disappearance were a parent's nightmare: A boy vanishes from the safe haven of his elementary school.

But over the course of two months, shock has turned into frustration as the case has taken bizarre twists. Suspicion rests on the boy's stepmother, who is mute about what happened the morning the child disappeared, while lurid tales of infidelity and even a murder-for-hire plot swirl.

And still, after the largest missing child search in Oregon history, the question remains: Where is Kyron?

http://www.kptv.com/news/24463537/detail.html

[alwaysbelieve]

2 Months Later, Where Is Kyron Horman?
KPTV POSTED: 10:23 am PDT July 31, 2010

The first accounts of 7-year-old Kyron Horman's disappearance were a parent's nightmare: A boy vanishes from the safe haven of his elementary school.

But over the course of two months, shock has turned into frustration as the case has taken bizarre twists. Suspicion rests on the boy's stepmother, who is mute about what happened the morning the child disappeared, while lurid tales of infidelity and even a murder-for-hire plot swirl.

And still, after the largest missing child search in Oregon history, the question remains: Where is Kyron?

http://www.kptv.com/news/24463537/detail.html

Ya' know, if we would go back to old fashion justice TH wouldn't be walking around free. It's time we did away with these "rights" when a child is missing. We wouldn't have over-crowded jails if justice was what it should be. Somebody needs to grab the hair on that red headed beotch and give her a good what for.

[hawaiicalls]

Does anyone know if this man who has canine dogs searching, is credible??? He is claiming he found a body, and turned the info into LE...Supposedly near Sauvie Island....TIA...

[alwaysbelieve]

Does anyone know if this man who has canine dogs searching, is credible??? He is claiming he found a body, and turned the info into LE...Supposedly near Sauvie Island....TIA...

http://www.k9sardog.com/harryoakes.html
Seems pretty credible if you read the article. I know he had commented earlier that LE wouldn't let him search, it was when they were first starting. I think he's been searching on his own.
Checking out some of the comments made, he isn't to be trusted so I guess it's just something you kinda figure out for yourself. Some people like him, some don't.

[alwaysbelieve]

Search Expert Using Dogs To Look For Kyron

UPDATED: 4:40 pm PDT June 30, 2010

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A search expert took his
border collies into the field Wednesday to search for evidence of
missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman, nearly one month after the boy
disappeared from Skyline School in northwest Portland.Harry
Oakes, the head of International K-9 Search and Rescue, offered his
services to police when Kyron disappeared, but they declined. He said
he's donating his time to search for Kyron on his own.Since the first week of the investigation, Sauvie's Island
has been a location repeatedly searched in the effort to find Kyron.
Dive teams, K-9s and horse trailers have been spotted at the island,
but deputies have not said whether they found anything.

Oakes returned to the island on Wednesday."I give absolutely no
credibility to the search dogs they use," Oakes said. "Too many times,
we've gone in after they've searched and then found the person in the
original search area."

Oakes scoured areas of Sauvie Island with his dogs and focused on
marinas around the island. Without a piece of Kyron's clothing or a
pillow case, he gave his dogs a pseudo scent to track.During his
search, one dog honed in on a spot of water and Oakes pulled a sock
out. It was the only spot that triggered the dogs.On Thursday,
he plans to bring in a second dog team to see if they get hits in the
same areas. If they do, Oakes plans to call police.

Oakes said he is not trying to upstage the sheriff's office or get in their way. He simply wants to give the family closure."I
saw the captain from the sheriff's office make a promise to bring Kyron
home and I'm trying to help him keep that promise," Oakes said.

[Mercy]

Search Expert Using Dogs To Look For Kyron

UPDATED: 4:40 pm PDT June 30, 2010

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A search expert took his
border collies into the field Wednesday to search for evidence of
missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman, nearly one month after the boy
disappeared from Skyline School in northwest Portland.Harry
Oakes, the head of International K-9 Search and Rescue, offered his
services to police when Kyron disappeared, but they declined. He said
he's donating his time to search for Kyron on his own.Since the first week of the investigation, Sauvie's Island
has been a location repeatedly searched in the effort to find Kyron.
Dive teams, K-9s and horse trailers have been spotted at the island,
but deputies have not said whether they found anything.

Oakes returned to the island on Wednesday."I give absolutely no
credibility to the search dogs they use," Oakes said. "Too many times,
we've gone in after they've searched and then found the person in the
original search area."

Oakes scoured areas of Sauvie Island with his dogs and focused on
marinas around the island. Without a piece of Kyron's clothing or a
pillow case, he gave his dogs a pseudo scent to track.During his
search, one dog honed in on a spot of water and Oakes pulled a sock
out. It was the only spot that triggered the dogs.On Thursday,
he plans to bring in a second dog team to see if they get hits in the
same areas. If they do, Oakes plans to call police.

Oakes said he is not trying to upstage the sheriff's office or get in their way. He simply wants to give the family closure."I
saw the captain from the sheriff's office make a promise to bring Kyron
home and I'm trying to help him keep that promise," Oakes said.

Give the man a scent item, it cannot hurt anyone and Oakes is certified for years.
I do not necessarily like Oakes, but this is about finding Kyron!
I also cannot understand this.

[Mercy]

I had heard some info that Kaine Horman may have a twin brother named Raine Horman.
So I did some checking and found he lives in Hillsboro, Oregon and has a wife named Kelly Schane Horman.
However this is as far as I can get with the information.
I thought if I put this out there, maybe someone could help.

God is blessing you Kyron!
God Bless,
Mercy

[oviedo45]

i haven't heard about a twin brother, just the brother that was convicted of molesting a girl.

[hawaiicalls]

Always, thanks for that info...Mercy, I agree, let him search...For goodness sakes!

Afternoon (PST) update, FYI:

Kyron investigators want more info from DeDe Spicher

"PORTLAND -- As the investigation into the disappearance of Kyron Horman enters its ninth week, KGW has learned invesitgators are busy trying to determine what - if anything - a friend of his step-mother's knows about what happened to him. ..."

"Sources - including people who have spoken with investigators - tell KGW that DeDe Speicher was cooperating more now after an appeal from Kyron's parents that she be more forthcoming.

However, investigators believe that she has still has not told them everything she knows.

KGW has learned that investigators have conducted several searches related to Speicher, including of property belonging to relatives of hers. They have also spoken with people who were in contact with her the day Kyron disappeared. ..."


http://www.kgw.com/news/Reward-missi...-99349594.html

[mom_in_il]

Does anyone know if this man who has canine dogs searching, is credible??? He is claiming he found a body, and turned the info into LE...Supposedly near Sauvie Island....TIA...

Here's his blog on myspace:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&vanity=127939120

From what little I've read the family has not provided him with a scent article Why not? Why wouldn't they want his help?

[mom_in_il]

Kyron’s Parents in Touch With Oprah but Say They Won’t Take Money for the Story

11:08 AM July 30th, 2010 by James Pitkin

The parents of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman tell WW that producers for Oprah Winfrey have contacted them. But Kaine Horman and Desiree Young say they won’t take money for the story of Kyron’s disappearance.

“We wouldn’t sell it,” Young said in an interview Tuesday.

“Oh yeah,” Horman agreed. “It’s not about money.”

They said they’ve been in contact with producers from The Oprah Show. But they said they’ve received no offers yet for book or movie deals.

Money has been an issue since July 26, when Kaine Horman filed papers in his ongoing divorce requesting to know the source of $350,000 that his wife, Terri Moulton Horman, allegedly paid her criminal-defense lawyer. According to The Oregonian, Terri Moulton Horman’s lawyer filed a response Thursday calling that reported amount “grossly inaccurate.”

Kaine Horman told WW he has no idea where his wife got the money.

“When you find out, call me,” he said. “I want to know.”

One possibility that’s been suggested is that Terri Moulton Horman’s parents, Larry and Carol Moulton, may have taken out an additional mortgage on their $175,500 house in Roseburg.

Terri Moulton Horman moved into that house with her parents around July 16.

But according to the Douglas County Assessor’s Office on Wednesday, the last time the Moultons refinanced their home was in 2008.


http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/30/kyrons-parents-in-touch-with-oprah-but-say-they-wont-take-money-for-story/

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