Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR

by mom_in_il Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:31 pm

Kyron Horman investigation: Transcript of interview with Sheriff Dan Staton

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_investigation_tra.html

by Mitestarossa Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:40 pm

Everyone should take what is read on "blinkoncrime" with a grain of salt. I think most of it is made up.

Most of the time Blink thought that Terri was completely innocent and getting "framed", and that the real guilty party was a relative of Kyron's best friend that claimed he saw Kyron on June 4.

Now Blink still thinks Terri had nothing to do with Kyron's disappearance, but that she is protecting someone else. It is all gobbly guck.

by Mitestarossa Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:42 pm

Admin wrote:This whole thing just makes me cry. Nobody stole this sweet punk, and unfortunately, I don't think he is still alive. What goes on in the mind of these people? In her case...geez, don't even get me started. Terri reminded me so much of Susan Smith at that press conference and that is really a sore point and a trigger for me. I couldn't believe she tried to pull that crap off like she did!

She KNOWS where Kyron is...or she KNOWS where she left his body. I'm going to refrain from using explicatives right now. And really, it is taking a gargantuan effort.

I turned in my reporter badge a long time ago, so I don't have to be objective and unbiased. I have the luxury of going with my instincts - and my instincts tell me that Terri Horman is guilty of murdering Kyron. Whether or not she did it directly, or indirectly remains to be seen, but I cannot fathom a person on this planet taking any amount of money to murder a child. Especially not for that fat piece of nothingness.

I probably shouldn't post this but I'm going to...

Admin, Amen to you. That is what we are all thinking. I sure hope that LE finds the evidence they need to arrest her soon, find Kyron and help his family find some peace.

by inmyfloridaopinion Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:35 pm

Admin wrote:Her cell phone pings were coming from Sauvie Island, so she was THERE. Cell phone pings don't lie. Whose white truck was it? Was she riding with Mr. Landscaper, or in her own white truck? Since LE gave her back the truck, (twice?) I'm guessing it was his. Good catch, Mom_in_Il. But I wonder if she borrowed his truck, and he was clueless? I still think it was Terri's truck....Kyron's DNA would be all over that truck, so what could they possibly find in her truck? They already know she was there...and I'm sure the dirt and bug samples acquired from the tires and windshield have been sent off for analysis, which will take weeks...let's hope they were that smart to take such samples....

The only thing that stops me from wondering if landscaper dude was involved with Kyron's disappearance is the fact that he would tell on himself if he were. Right now, if he is NOT involved, he's got more on Terri, than Terri has on him - so it makes sense that he would come forward. He hasn't broken the law, because as far as we know, no payment exchanged hands...If he WAS involved...even if he didn't get paid, it would be in his best interest to shut the hell up about it....unless he is dumb enough to try and throw Terri under the bus for lack of payment, because it implicates him to the nth degree. This is all so confusing and poor Kyron is still missing....

Did I read correctly that Terri's atty is shopping a book deal in New York? WTH? Are you f'in kidding me? I must've misread that...

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by admin Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:33 am

Mitestarossa wrote:An Amber Alert has been issued for a 4 year old abducted from her front lawn in Missouri. http://peoplefindsearch.blogspot.com/

Thanks, Mitestarossa... it's like the world has gone mad. I wish you would join us on the Main Blog, you are very bright, and seem to share our passion for justice for all these children. We would all love your input. None of us have been known to bite. Laughing

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https://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/main-blog-f10/

IMFO... LOL...I had that thought...he can't possibly be that stupid, though, because he took an undercover officer with him...which tells me, Mr. Landscaper went to the police first, and hadn't done anything wrong. Yet. I think he was trying to get a free piece from Terri, god only knows why....so he played along....JMHO...

by karma Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:27 am

Missing boy's mom makes new appeal to stepmother

July 06, 2010
06:33 pm

The biological mother of a 7-year-old Oregon boy missing for more
than a month has issued a fresh appeal to the boy's stepmother, asking
her to cooperate with police.Desiree Young and her husband,
Medford police Detective Tony Young, called a news conference Tuesday at
police headquarters in Medford.Reading from a statement, Mrs.
Young called on little Kyron Horman's stepmother Terri Horman to"do the
right thing" and cooperate with investigators.Terri Horman is the
last person known to have seen Kyron before he vanished on June 4.The
boy's father, mother and stepfather said in an e-mail to news
organizations late Monday they still believe Terri Horman is not telling
investigators everything she knows. Terri Horman's lawyer did not
immediately return a call for comment Tuesday.
http://www.mycentraloregon.com/news/state/ap/1296049/Missing-boys-mom-makes-new-appeal-to-stepmother.html

by karma Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:33 am

Missing boy's mom makes new appeal to stepmother

By JEFF BARNARD
(AP)
–
10 minutes ago
MEDFORD, Ore. — The biological mother of a 7-year-old Oregon boy
missing for more than a month issued a fresh appeal Tuesday to the boy's
stepmother, asking her to cooperate with police.Desiree Young
called on Kyron Horman's stepmother, Terri Horman, to "do the right
thing" and cooperate with investigators, if for no other reason than for
the boy's half sister, 18-month-old Kiara Horman, "who loves him and
misses him."Terri Horman is the last person known to have seen
Kyron before he vanished on June 4. Investigators have not named her as a
suspect or a person of interest.Her attorney, Portland defense
lawyer Stephen Houze, did not immediately return calls seeking comment
on Tuesday.Multnomah County authorities have said that Horman was
cooperating with the investigation. But Young, the boy's father and his
stepfather said in an e-mail to news organizations late Monday that
they believe Horman is not telling investigators everything she knows.Lt.
Mary Lindstrand at the sheriff's office said Tuesday that the
department would not discuss details of the case.Horman has told
authorities she dropped him off at a science fair before school. He
never appeared in class, and did not come home on the school bus.Young
and her husband, Medford Police Detective Tony Young, said Tuesday they
wanted people in southern Oregon to know about his ties to the region,
and to keep up hopes that he will be found alive."We love you and
we miss you," his mother said. "Please do not be afraid, because the
police are going to find you."Young also revealed that the day
her son disappeared, his stepmother was supposed to drive him to Eugene
to turn him over to his mother and stepfather to spend the weekend in
Medford.Tony Young said he was going to take the boy on a
long-delayed fishing trip with the rod the stepfather had given him for
Christmas.

Copyright © 2010 The
Associated Press. All rights reserved.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j9b2LUBiZZfn4HkSTtQZpweYzk3AD9GPU7586

by Mitestarossa Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:00 am

Thanks Admin. I am new and I don't know all of your procedures. Also, I have been obsessed with the Kyron Horman case, I sure hope he is found soon.

Reading about little Alisa Maier today brought me back to the reality of this world.

by TomTerrific0420 Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:14 am

Admin wrote:
Mitestarossa wrote:An Amber Alert has been issued for a 4 year old abducted from her front lawn in Missouri. http://peoplefindsearch.blogspot.com/

Thanks, Mitestarossa... it's like the world has gone mad. I wish you would join us on the Main Blog, you are very bright, and seem to share our passion for justice for all these children. We would all love your input. None of us have been known to bite....

https://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/main-blog-f10/

IMFO... LOL...I had that thought...he can't possibly be that stupid, though, because he took an undercover officer with him...which tells me, Mr. Landscaper went to the police first, and hadn't done anything wrong. Yet. I think he was trying to get a free piece from Terri, god only knows why....so he played along....JMHO...

---Just for the record, I removed mitestarossa's original post about this in this topic as Admin had it covered 14 hours earlier in the Amber Alert section. It's all an attempt to keep the discussion on point about the topic in the headline, though I must admit, sometimes these cases need to have a dual microscope.

by karma Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:37 am

Mitestarossa wrote:Thanks Admin. I am new and I don't know all of your procedures. Also, I have been obsessed with the Kyron Horman case, I sure hope he is found soon.

Reading about little Alisa Maier today brought me back to the reality of this world.

Got kicked off KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR - Page 28 Suspect

so will be quick with my post...
Just wanted to say I read your article/blog on Kyron this past Sunday KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR - Page 28 325898

very well done.
Keep up the good work!

by Mitestarossa Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:57 am

karma wrote:
Mitestarossa wrote:Thanks Admin. I am new and I don't know all of your procedures. Also, I have been obsessed with the Kyron Horman case, I sure hope he is found soon.

Reading about little Alisa Maier today brought me back to the reality of this world.

Got kicked off so will be quick with my post...
Just wanted to say I read your article/blog on Kyron this past Sunday very well done.
Keep up the good work!

Thanks Karma,

I love this website, everyone is so well informed and friendly. Nice to meet you!

by karma Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:09 am

Desiree Young appeals to Terri Horman "to do what is
right"

July 6, 2010

Video of Desiree Young's statement at this site:

http://kdrv.com/page/180433

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by karma Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:15 am

Statements abound on many blogs that TH and DY were once friends but in her video statement, DY states that it's completely false and they 'were not friends prior'.

by Mitestarossa Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:48 am

karma wrote:Statements abound on many blogs that TH and DY were once friends but in her video statement, DY states that it's completely false and they 'were not friends prior'.

Isn't it nice that the family is talking more and we are learning more of the truth. I think it will help to break the case and hopefully bring Kyron home. I have never understood why they didn't talk to press. The explanation that they were "keeping it about Kyron" just did not make sense. Even the smallest clues (and we started with only tiny ones) help solve cases. May be if Kaine had brought Terri out in front of the cameras sooner he would have discovered that she was keeping secrets.

by kiwimom Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:51 am

I'm trying to figure out where TH may have left Kyron. Things just don't make sense to me. On the one hand it seems that TH has planned this and come up with the elaborate scheme involving the school. On the other hand we are to believe she took her cell phone with her while committing the crime. She doesn't seem a stupid woman so I can't understand why she would take her cell phone with her if she wanted to dump Kyron on the Island. It's pretty much common knowledge that you can be tracked through your cell phone and certainly someone planning murders would be aware of that and leave it at home. Add to that the fact that they have not found Kyron at the Island I wonder if it wasn't a ruse to steer searchers away from where he is. If she planned this she thinks she's very clever. I've been looking into stats lately and somewhere close to the home is the most common. There have been extensive searches around the school and Sauvie Island but not really in the surrounding few miles of the home. That is where a massive and very thorough search needs to be done IMO. Kyron is possibly as close to home as Caylee was.

by karma Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:08 am

Mitestarossa wrote:
karma wrote:Statements abound on many blogs that TH and DY were once friends but in her video statement, DY states that it's completely false and they 'were not friends prior'.
Isn't it nice that the family is talking more and we are learning more of the truth. I think it will help to break the case and hopefully bring Kyron home. I have never understood why they didn't talk to press. The explanation that they were "keeping it about Kyron" just did not make sense. Even the smallest clues (and we started with only tiny ones) help solve cases. May be if Kaine had brought Terri out in front of the cameras sooner he would have discovered that she was keeping secrets.

If they were trying to 'keep it about Kyron', their control and secrecy with media defeated that. I'm appalled that the media bought in on the censorship and the public outcry was a mere drone.
When KH and TH made their 1st public statement, I like many others saw guilt in TH's body language.
I have to admit, I had and still have a feeling that there is something else that KH is holding back. He appears somewhat 'removed', and I don't mean towards Kyron at all and I don't think it was just the emotional distance between he and TH. Time will tell. You're right, it is all the small details that will help us bring Kyron home. Hope TH sees the light and comes clean...and that KH can speak freely, holding nothing back.

I like that Desiree reached to the 'mother' in TH when in her recent statement appealed to TH, to paraphrase "if only for the love Kiara has for Kyron"...Will the love for her bio-daughter convince her to talk?

by karma Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:30 am

kiwimom wrote:I'm trying to figure out where TH may have left Kyron. Things just don't make sense to me. On the one hand it seems that TH has planned this and come up with the elaborate scheme involving the school. On the other hand we are to believe she took her cell phone with her while committing the crime. She doesn't seem a stupid woman so I can't understand why she would take her cell phone with her if she wanted to dump Kyron on the Island. It's pretty much common knowledge that you can be tracked through your cell phone and certainly someone planning murders would be aware of that and leave it at home. Add to that the fact that they have not found Kyron at the Island I wonder if it wasn't a ruse to steer searchers away from where he is. If she planned this she thinks she's very clever. I've been looking into stats lately and somewhere close to the home is the most common. There have been extensive searches around the school and Sauvie Island but not really in the surrounding few miles of the home. That is where a massive and very thorough search needs to be done IMO. Kyron is possibly as close to home as Caylee was.

I agree, if she did something to Kyron, he's close to home. IIRC, they searched the immediate area extensively and repeatedly. Do you have an addy we can google to see the neighbourhood/surroundings?
If she did do something to kyron, it's very possible that it wasn't planned. Fact that she was once into body building means it's also highly probably that she was into the steroid scene. So did she get back into that hoping to loose the baby weight and regain her pre-preggers figure? Did she power out and Kyron was the unfortunate recipient of her steroid rage? We can only speculate... I really don't know.

Since she decided to send her bio-son to her parents when she tried to get the landscaper to off her hubby, she had much to gain in terms of the the house, insurance etc and then likely her bio-son would come back to live with her and daughter, little Kyron would be sent to live with his bio-mom?
Her bio-son eventually went to live with his bio-dad...why? If she initially sent him to her parents, I assume it's because she intended to have him come back to her. Was she blaming KH for not getting along with her bio-son? Was this tit for tat...if I can't have my son, neither can you?

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by Mitestarossa Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:51 am

karma wrote:
Mitestarossa wrote:
karma wrote:Statements abound on many blogs that TH and DY were once friends but in her video statement, DY states that it's completely false and they 'were not friends prior'.
Isn't it nice that the family is talking more and we are learning more of the truth. I think it will help to break the case and hopefully bring Kyron home. I have never understood why they didn't talk to press. The explanation that they were "keeping it about Kyron" just did not make sense. Even the smallest clues (and we started with only tiny ones) help solve cases. May be if Kaine had brought Terri out in front of the cameras sooner he would have discovered that she was keeping secrets.
If they were trying to 'keep it about Kyron', their control and secrecy with media defeated that. I'm appalled that the media bought in on the censorship and the public outcry was a mere drone.
When KH and TH made their 1st public statement, I like many others saw guilt in TH's body language.
I have to admit, I had and still have a feeling that there is something else that KH is holding back. He appears somewhat 'removed', and I don't mean towards Kyron at all and I don't think it was just the emotional distance between he and TH. Time will tell. You're right, it is all the small details that will help us bring Kyron home. Hope TH sees the light and comes clean...and that KH can speak freely, holding nothing back.

I like that Desiree reached to the 'mother' in TH when in her recent statement appealed to TH, to paraphrase "if only for the love Kiara has for Kyron"...Will the love for her bio-daughter convince her to talk?

There are densely wooded areas around their home and Kyron's school. So dense that a small plane can crash and it won't be found for years.

Terri does seem to be a smart woman, but may be she thought that if her cell phone was turned off it could not be traced, or may be she just blew it. There is no perfect murder because human make mistakes.

The why still makes me want to vomit. I just do not understand how anything could be so bad to make a person commit such a crime.

by oviedo45 Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:48 pm

karma wrote:Statements abound on many blogs that TH and DY were once friends but in her video statement, DY states that it's completely false and they 'were not friends prior'.

i find this interesting in light of the fact that th friends' have said that dy wanted th to take care of kyron for her while she was ill - so are they all liars? i said it before, what kind of friend moves in with your ex husband and then pursues a relationship with him?

by oviedo45 Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:49 pm

kiwimom wrote:I'm trying to figure out where TH may have left Kyron. Things just don't make sense to me. On the one hand it seems that TH has planned this and come up with the elaborate scheme involving the school. On the other hand we are to believe she took her cell phone with her while committing the crime. She doesn't seem a stupid woman so I can't understand why she would take her cell phone with her if she wanted to dump Kyron on the Island. It's pretty much common knowledge that you can be tracked through your cell phone and certainly someone planning murders would be aware of that and leave it at home. Add to that the fact that they have not found Kyron at the Island I wonder if it wasn't a ruse to steer searchers away from where he is. If she planned this she thinks she's very clever. I've been looking into stats lately and somewhere close to the home is the most common. There have been extensive searches around the school and Sauvie Island but not really in the surrounding few miles of the home. That is where a massive and very thorough search needs to be done IMO. Kyron is possibly as close to home as Caylee was.

my thoughts exactly kiwi - i posted awhile ago that i had hoped they had thoroughly searched the immediate area surrounding the home. and why aren't they still searching the island area - and if her own truck was involved - why haven't they impounded it yet?

by oviedo45 Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:00 pm

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osuksigalum
June 05, 2010 at 12:33AM
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A couple of things after reading this and watching the news
tonight. Was there an Amber Alert sent out? Secondly, on channel 8
coverage I believe, they talked with a school representative who stated
the step mom and child was observed by the teacher walking into the
class room at 7:45, then they hung up the child's backpack then left to
check out the science fair. Wouldn't the teacher notice the student
never came back? Very odd if true, might be a case of misinformation
though. Good luck to the searchers.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/police_looking_for_missing_por.html
early story posted at 10:22 pm june 4 (BBM)

TH wrote on her fb the next day:
Terri
Moulton Horman Please don't listen to the news. It is inaccurate. We
will give details as soon as we can. Thank you all for your well wishes.
There are a lot of people looking.

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so now the timeline could be back to 7:45am but this hasn't been released or talked about since the initial report shown on tv and commented on by this viewer - could that make a difference?

and why in the world would TH make that comment on fb? is it a pre-emptive strike? knowing that she did something wrong, and wanting her friends to ignore the media lest they report something about her?

by oviedo45 Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:50 pm

http://kdrv.com/page/180433
dy press conf from yesterday - how heartbreaking - interesting that kaine wasn't involved - he was speaking to investigators apparently - wonder what else they can possibly be talking about after 4 weeks?

by Mitestarossa Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:54 pm

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osuksigalum
June 05, 2010 at 12:33AM
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A couple of things after reading this and watching the news
tonight. Was there an Amber Alert sent out? Secondly, on channel 8
coverage I believe, they talked with a school representative who stated
the step mom and child was observed by the teacher walking into the
class room at 7:45, then they hung up the child's backpack then left to
check out the science fair. Wouldn't the teacher notice the student
never came back? Very odd if true, might be a case of misinformation
though. Good luck to the searchers.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/police_looking_for_missing_por.html
early story posted at 10:22 pm june 4 (BBM)

TH wrote on her fb the next day:
Terri
Moulton Horman Please don't listen to the news. It is inaccurate. We
will give details as soon as we can. Thank you all for your well wishes.
There are a lot of people looking.

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so now the timeline could be back to 7:45am but this hasn't been released or talked about since the initial report shown on tv and commented on by this viewer - could that make a difference?

and why in the world would TH make that comment on fb? is it a pre-emptive strike? knowing that she did something wrong, and wanting her friends to ignore the media lest they report something about her?

Whoa! Good job Ovie, Terri was telling her friends to ignore the media before it was even necessary. I would think that would be the last thing you would say when you are trying to get the message out that your kid is missing.

by Mitestarossa Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:56 pm

oviedo45 wrote:http://kdrv.com/page/180433
dy press conf from yesterday - how heartbreaking - interesting that kaine wasn't involved - he was speaking to investigators apparently - wonder what else they can possibly be talking about after 4 weeks?

That was odd that Kaine was not there. I am trying not to read too much into it. It seems like Desiree is trying to keep Kyron continuously in the news, may be Kaine was busy with LE since he has additional things to deal with such as the murder for hire, divorce and restraining order, that DY does not have to deal with.

by oviedo45 Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:49 pm

i hope that is the case, i really don't want to think he was involved in any way in his son's disappearance.

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