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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Posts from a "psychic" family friend of the Moultons - VERY interesting reading . . .
http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/rosecitybluessinger/index.html
http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/rosecitybluessinger/index.html
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Where---Skyline
School “The Wall of Hope”
11536 Northwest
Skyline Boulevard
Portland,
OR 97231
When---Friday, July 9th
Time---8:00
PM - 10:00 PM
i plan to light a candle for kyron
tonight - i am hoping that the reason they think he is alive is because
they have info they can't share. kaine and desirree are both supposed
to go to the vigil tonight
School “The Wall of Hope”
11536 Northwest
Skyline Boulevard
Portland,
OR 97231
When---Friday, July 9th
Time---8:00
PM - 10:00 PM
i plan to light a candle for kyron
tonight - i am hoping that the reason they think he is alive is because
they have info they can't share. kaine and desirree are both supposed
to go to the vigil tonight
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
mom_in_il wrote:Posts from a "psychic" family friend of the Moultons - VERY interesting reading . . .
http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/rosecitybluessinger/index.html
VERY interesting...
How does this woman KNOW that Terri had the baby with her at the science fair, when she dropped of Kyron? Did Terri tell her that...or is this lady just old and confused? Oh and there's more...a May 9th call to police??? Because Terri "got into it" with the landscaper? Huh? I've never been mad enough at any landscaper to call the police. I just fire them. Done. If true, it goes to passion and relationship. Because, ya know, he came back, and did more work after that...and she was wiling to meet with him when he was wearing a wire...why would she do that if she didn't have a relationship with him and had called the police on him a month earlier? Does not compute.
Psychic or not, this woman has some info that LE might want to take a look at.
I was just reading about Darlie Router, and to this day, her family stands behind her story.
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Admin wrote:mom_in_il wrote:Posts from a "psychic" family friend of the Moultons - VERY interesting reading . . .
http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/rosecitybluessinger/index.html
VERY interesting...
How does this woman KNOW that Terri had the baby with her at the science fair, when she dropped of Kyron? Did Terri tell her that...or is this lady just old and confused? Oh and there's more...a May 9th call to police??? Because Terri "got into it" with the landscaper? Huh? I've never been mad enough at any landscaper to call the police. I just fire them. Done. If true, it goes to passion and relationship. Because, ya know, he came back, and did more work after that...and she was wiling to meet with him when he was wearing a wire...why would she do that if she didn't have a relationship with him and had called the police on him a month earlier? Does not compute.
Psychic or not, this woman has some info that LE might want to take a look at.
I was just reading about Darlie Router, and to this day, her family stands behind her story.
I wonder EXACTLY what kind of relationship Terri was having with this landscaper.....
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Multnomah County Sheriff's Office has no comments
regarding the July 8, 2010 Young/Horman press conferences - 07/08/10
There will be no comment from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office
regarding the information reported during the Horman/Young July 8, 2010
press conferences. The information released in during these
conferences did NOT come from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office.
This is an ongoing investigation.
There is no press conference scheduled.
The tip line is open, if there are tips or information related to
the Kyron Horman missing person case please call the Multnomah County
Sheriff's Office tip line at 503 261-2847. If someone believes they
have had an actual sighting of Kyron Hormon call 911.
http://www.flashalert.net/news.html?id=1276&alert=1
regarding the July 8, 2010 Young/Horman press conferences - 07/08/10
There will be no comment from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office
regarding the information reported during the Horman/Young July 8, 2010
press conferences. The information released in during these
conferences did NOT come from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office.
This is an ongoing investigation.
There is no press conference scheduled.
The tip line is open, if there are tips or information related to
the Kyron Horman missing person case please call the Multnomah County
Sheriff's Office tip line at 503 261-2847. If someone believes they
have had an actual sighting of Kyron Hormon call 911.
http://www.flashalert.net/news.html?id=1276&alert=1
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Kyron Horman's father recalls when marriage to Terri Horman began to
sour
Published: Thursday, July 08, 2010, 7:59 PM Updated: Friday,
July 09, 2010, 9:58 AM
The father of missing second-grader Kyron Horman said Thursday that his
marriage to the boy's stepmom began to grow rocky after she gave birth
to their little girl 19 months ago.
"I thought the marriage was doing pretty well," Kaine Horman said during a one-on-one interview with
The Oregonian, "until we had our daughter, Kiara."
Horman said he thought his marriage to Terri Moulton Horman fractured within six
months after she gave birth in November 2008, the result of postpartum
depression.
Terri Horman was put on medication for the depression, and her doctor told Kaine to keep an eye on
her to make sure she was OK, he said. But she wasn't OK.
"She's had a lot of emotional outbursts," he said. "I think it's still with her. I don't
know if it's postpartum or something else."
The 36-year-old software engineer said he believes what he wrote in a June 28
restraining order against his estranged wife: She tried to hire someone
to kill him.
During a car ride Thursday a few miles from the elementary school where his 7-year-old son
vanished on June 4, Horman said he agrees with detectives who have told him that the investigation
into Kyron's disappearance will be a marathon rather than a sprint.
He hopes a few key pieces of information -- from tips or leads or
something detectives track down -- will eventually break the case.
"I think we're certain that the pieces are going to fall into place at
some point," he said.
Kaine and Kiara Horman moved out of their rural Multnomah County home on June 26. A couple of days later, Kaine
filed for divorce and obtained a restraining order that forbids his wife
from coming near him or their daughter.
A Multnomah County judge unsealed the restraining order Thursday, and
Kaine's attorney filed a motion to amend it so that the court will force
Terri Horman to vacate the home.
"I believe respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron,"
Kaine Horman wrote. "I also recently learned that respondent attempted
to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probable
cause to believe the above two statements to be true."
Horman wrote that the attempted murder-for-hire plot occurred at the end of
2009.
Horman also has asked the court to hold an expedited
hearing that would force his wife out of the house he bought on
Northwest Sheltered Nook Road in January 2007, three months before he
and Terri Horman got married in Hawaii.
In Thursday's interview,Horman said one reason he wants to move back into his house is to
return his daughter to her normal surroundings. He and his daughter have
been living in an undisclosed location.
"Part two is, we find Kyron, what are they gonna do, ship him off to our undisclosed
location?" Horman said. "I mean, how homey is that gonna be for him when
we find him?"
Circuit Judge Keith Meisenheimer set a hearing
for July 22 in which Terri Horman will be ordered to show good reason
why the court shouldn't make her move out of the house.
Terri Horman's lawyer, Stephen Houze, said this week that neither he nor Terri
would comment on the murder-for-hire allegations, restraining order,
divorce proceedings or ongoing investigation.
The restraining order unsealed Thursday requires Terri Horman to stay more than 500 feet
from her husband or daughter, and not have any parenting time. She's
also not to go to the Skyline School, Kaine's Intel office or his gym,
The Edge in Beaverton. She's also restricted from entering her
daughter's current or future day-care provider's location or school.
The judge also ordered Terri Horman not to possess any firearms.
Kyron Horman disappeared after spending time at a science
fair at Skyline School in rural northwest Multnomah County. His stepmom
was the last known person to have seen him. She told authorities that
she brought Kyron to school that morning with his science fair exhibit
and watched him walk toward his classroom about 8:45 a.m. before she
left the school.
Although the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office
has not identified a suspect or a person of interest in the boy's
disappearance, investigators have clearly focused on Terri Horman in
recent weeks.
On June 18, they began circulating fliers with her
photo and a picture of the white truck she drove to and from the school
on the day Kyron vanished.
About that time, investigators tracked down a landscaper who told authorities that Terri Horman had
tried to pay him to kill her husband. Then on June 26, detectives sent
the landscaper back to the Horman home to get taped corroboration of the
alleged murder-for-hire plot.
The landscaper, fitted with a body wire, told Terri Horman he would tell police about her plan if she
didn't pay him $10,000. But she cut off the conversation and called
9-1-1 to report "threats," records show.
The revelation of the alleged plot to kill Kaine Horman has helped widen the increasing split
between Kyron's parents and Terri Horman.
That split became even
more obvious later Thursday when he and Kyron's mother, Desiree Young, held
a news conference at a Beaverton hotel.
During the news conference, Young said she has long
suspected that Terri Horman has been involved in Kyron's disappearance.
Asked about her body language at the family's first public appearance June 11
-- at the time, she appeared stiff and closed her eyes tight when Terri
Horman put her arm around Young's shoulder -- Young said she thought
then that Horman was involved.
"Mothers have instincts," Young said, "and unfortunately I had feelings about this when I got the phone
call."
She and Kaine Horman also said that Terri Horman has failed two polygraph tests and went on to make it
clear they are upset with her.
"I'm so angry I don't even have words," Young told
reporters. "I just really want her to do the right thing and I can't say
it enough that Kyron is still out there and he needs to be home. It's
extremely frustrating that she's not cooperating."
When asked how Terri Horman wasn't cooperating with investigators, Young said she
wasn't "taking an active role in finding Kyron and telling the truth.
"I've known her a long time," Young said. "I know she's lying."
Kaine Horman added that he was upset about Terri occupying the family home,
keeping him and his daughter out of it.
"Displacing a child for the comfort of an adult. I think we all have our opinions on how
appropriate that is," he said.
Kyron's parents did not comment on the specifics of the investigation, but noticeably paused when asked if
they thought someone else might be involved.
"We would like to speculate, but we really can't," Young said.
Investigators in the missing-child case are at a crossroads, focusing on Terri Horman
while urging the public to keep an eye out for Kyron and pass them any
tips that might help locate the boy.
But where does that leave Kaine Horman?
"It still puts me looking for my boy," he said. "It's our kids first, and everything else comes after. So Kyron, he's
missing, he's in danger -- he's No. 1 priority. And after that, Kiara is
No. 2 priority. And based on what I filed (in) the restraining order,
we feel that she's possibly in danger. So we've got two children that
are in bad places."
Horman, standing on a wooded road in Adidas running shoes, was stoic when considering his troubles.
"It's gotta happen to somebody," he said.
As a software engineer at Intel, Horman has been trained to break things down into pieces,
compartmentalize and prioritize them.
"It's one piece at a time," he said. "If we address every piece emotionally, we'd go insane
right now."
Horman, a former high school sprinter, said he holds
things together by running a couple of miles a day, playing with his
daughter and seeing a counselor once a week to talk about his situation.
He said he and Kyron's mother and stepfather have asked
detectives not to give them any false hope as they investigate his
disappearance.
"It was kind of something we all talked about together," he said. "Obviously, we're hopeful that this will come to a
conclusion sometime soon."
Asked whether he has made any plans if detectives come to him with bad news, Horman pursed his lips and
shook his head.
"No," he said.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html
sour
Published: Thursday, July 08, 2010, 7:59 PM Updated: Friday,
July 09, 2010, 9:58 AM
The father of missing second-grader Kyron Horman said Thursday that his
marriage to the boy's stepmom began to grow rocky after she gave birth
to their little girl 19 months ago.
"I thought the marriage was doing pretty well," Kaine Horman said during a one-on-one interview with
The Oregonian, "until we had our daughter, Kiara."
Horman said he thought his marriage to Terri Moulton Horman fractured within six
months after she gave birth in November 2008, the result of postpartum
depression.
Terri Horman was put on medication for the depression, and her doctor told Kaine to keep an eye on
her to make sure she was OK, he said. But she wasn't OK.
"She's had a lot of emotional outbursts," he said. "I think it's still with her. I don't
know if it's postpartum or something else."
The 36-year-old software engineer said he believes what he wrote in a June 28
restraining order against his estranged wife: She tried to hire someone
to kill him.
During a car ride Thursday a few miles from the elementary school where his 7-year-old son
vanished on June 4, Horman said he agrees with detectives who have told him that the investigation
into Kyron's disappearance will be a marathon rather than a sprint.
He hopes a few key pieces of information -- from tips or leads or
something detectives track down -- will eventually break the case.
"I think we're certain that the pieces are going to fall into place at
some point," he said.
Kaine and Kiara Horman moved out of their rural Multnomah County home on June 26. A couple of days later, Kaine
filed for divorce and obtained a restraining order that forbids his wife
from coming near him or their daughter.
A Multnomah County judge unsealed the restraining order Thursday, and
Kaine's attorney filed a motion to amend it so that the court will force
Terri Horman to vacate the home.
"I believe respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron,"
Kaine Horman wrote. "I also recently learned that respondent attempted
to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probable
cause to believe the above two statements to be true."
Horman wrote that the attempted murder-for-hire plot occurred at the end of
2009.
Horman also has asked the court to hold an expedited
hearing that would force his wife out of the house he bought on
Northwest Sheltered Nook Road in January 2007, three months before he
and Terri Horman got married in Hawaii.
In Thursday's interview,Horman said one reason he wants to move back into his house is to
return his daughter to her normal surroundings. He and his daughter have
been living in an undisclosed location.
"Part two is, we find Kyron, what are they gonna do, ship him off to our undisclosed
location?" Horman said. "I mean, how homey is that gonna be for him when
we find him?"
Circuit Judge Keith Meisenheimer set a hearing
for July 22 in which Terri Horman will be ordered to show good reason
why the court shouldn't make her move out of the house.
Terri Horman's lawyer, Stephen Houze, said this week that neither he nor Terri
would comment on the murder-for-hire allegations, restraining order,
divorce proceedings or ongoing investigation.
The restraining order unsealed Thursday requires Terri Horman to stay more than 500 feet
from her husband or daughter, and not have any parenting time. She's
also not to go to the Skyline School, Kaine's Intel office or his gym,
The Edge in Beaverton. She's also restricted from entering her
daughter's current or future day-care provider's location or school.
The judge also ordered Terri Horman not to possess any firearms.
Kyron Horman disappeared after spending time at a science
fair at Skyline School in rural northwest Multnomah County. His stepmom
was the last known person to have seen him. She told authorities that
she brought Kyron to school that morning with his science fair exhibit
and watched him walk toward his classroom about 8:45 a.m. before she
left the school.
Although the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office
has not identified a suspect or a person of interest in the boy's
disappearance, investigators have clearly focused on Terri Horman in
recent weeks.
On June 18, they began circulating fliers with her
photo and a picture of the white truck she drove to and from the school
on the day Kyron vanished.
About that time, investigators tracked down a landscaper who told authorities that Terri Horman had
tried to pay him to kill her husband. Then on June 26, detectives sent
the landscaper back to the Horman home to get taped corroboration of the
alleged murder-for-hire plot.
The landscaper, fitted with a body wire, told Terri Horman he would tell police about her plan if she
didn't pay him $10,000. But she cut off the conversation and called
9-1-1 to report "threats," records show.
The revelation of the alleged plot to kill Kaine Horman has helped widen the increasing split
between Kyron's parents and Terri Horman.
That split became even
more obvious later Thursday when he and Kyron's mother, Desiree Young, held
a news conference at a Beaverton hotel.
During the news conference, Young said she has long
suspected that Terri Horman has been involved in Kyron's disappearance.
Asked about her body language at the family's first public appearance June 11
-- at the time, she appeared stiff and closed her eyes tight when Terri
Horman put her arm around Young's shoulder -- Young said she thought
then that Horman was involved.
"Mothers have instincts," Young said, "and unfortunately I had feelings about this when I got the phone
call."
She and Kaine Horman also said that Terri Horman has failed two polygraph tests and went on to make it
clear they are upset with her.
"I'm so angry I don't even have words," Young told
reporters. "I just really want her to do the right thing and I can't say
it enough that Kyron is still out there and he needs to be home. It's
extremely frustrating that she's not cooperating."
When asked how Terri Horman wasn't cooperating with investigators, Young said she
wasn't "taking an active role in finding Kyron and telling the truth.
"I've known her a long time," Young said. "I know she's lying."
Kaine Horman added that he was upset about Terri occupying the family home,
keeping him and his daughter out of it.
"Displacing a child for the comfort of an adult. I think we all have our opinions on how
appropriate that is," he said.
Kyron's parents did not comment on the specifics of the investigation, but noticeably paused when asked if
they thought someone else might be involved.
"We would like to speculate, but we really can't," Young said.
Investigators in the missing-child case are at a crossroads, focusing on Terri Horman
while urging the public to keep an eye out for Kyron and pass them any
tips that might help locate the boy.
But where does that leave Kaine Horman?
"It still puts me looking for my boy," he said. "It's our kids first, and everything else comes after. So Kyron, he's
missing, he's in danger -- he's No. 1 priority. And after that, Kiara is
No. 2 priority. And based on what I filed (in) the restraining order,
we feel that she's possibly in danger. So we've got two children that
are in bad places."
Horman, standing on a wooded road in Adidas running shoes, was stoic when considering his troubles.
"It's gotta happen to somebody," he said.
As a software engineer at Intel, Horman has been trained to break things down into pieces,
compartmentalize and prioritize them.
"It's one piece at a time," he said. "If we address every piece emotionally, we'd go insane
right now."
Horman, a former high school sprinter, said he holds
things together by running a couple of miles a day, playing with his
daughter and seeing a counselor once a week to talk about his situation.
He said he and Kyron's mother and stepfather have asked
detectives not to give them any false hope as they investigate his
disappearance.
"It was kind of something we all talked about together," he said. "Obviously, we're hopeful that this will come to a
conclusion sometime soon."
Asked whether he has made any plans if detectives come to him with bad news, Horman pursed his lips and
shook his head.
"No," he said.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
can't wait to see this thread moved to the FOUND CHILDREN section
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/09/kaine-horman-kyrons-stepmom-walked-out-on-polygraph/
Kaine Horman, father of 7-year-old Kyron
Horman, tells WW the missing boy’s stepmom walked out
of her second polygraph test before investigators even began
asking questions.
“She didn’t even get hooked up to the machine. She walked out before
they hooked her up,” Horman told WW in an interview Thursday
night.
As first reported
in WW, Terri Moulton Horman took her first polygraph just days
after Kyron’s disappearance. At a press conference Thursday evening,
Kaine Horman and Kyron’s biological mother, Desiree Young,
emphasized what had previously been reported — that Terri Moulton
Horman had failed two polygraph tests.
But in his WW interview, Kaine Horman revealed what hasn’t
been made public — that Kyron’s stepmom walked out of a third test.
Kaine Horman told WW the family emphasized the polygraph
results in an effort to pressure Terri Moulton Horman to cooperate with
law enforcement. Kaine Horman filed for divorce and a restraining order June 28. In court records, he
said he believes she was involved in Kyron’s disappearance and in an
alleged plot to have Kaine Horman killed.
“She’s been really vocal, her friends have been really vocal, about
all these polygraphs she’s taking,” Kaine Horman told WW.
“Well, they haven’t been forthcoming about the results of those tests.”
He said the first time Terri Moulton Horman took a polygraph she was
“very vocal” among friends and family that she’d failed. Kaine Horman
says she made excuses, and he gave her the benefit of the doubt. He
declined to say what questions allegedly tripped her up.
Several days later, he says, she agreed to take a second polygraph
but walked out before the questions began. Around 10 days later, she
finally agreed to sit down again for a lie detector. Once again, he
says, she failed.
Kaine Horman says those failures were the most significant evidence
driving him toward the belief that his wife was involved in Kyron’s
disappearance.
“The first red flag is failed test. Second red flag is walking out in
the middle of the second one. And the third red flag is, I’m going to
fight law enforcement as long as I possibly can to absolutely refuse to
take a polygraph,” he said. “After 10 days, she finally breaks down,
goes, takes another one, and she fails.”
Kaine Horman said the realization has left him torn. He said he never
previously saw anything seriously amiss with his wife or his family.
“There’s a lot of guilt. There’s a lot of betrayal. There’s a lot of
many different emotions,” he said. “The problem right now is that
Kyron’s not here, and I don’t have time to sort through those right now,
because we need to find him first.”
Listen to an audio clip of Kaine Horman discussing the polygraphs here
Kaine Horman, father of 7-year-old Kyron
Horman, tells WW the missing boy’s stepmom walked out
of her second polygraph test before investigators even began
asking questions.
“She didn’t even get hooked up to the machine. She walked out before
they hooked her up,” Horman told WW in an interview Thursday
night.
As first reported
in WW, Terri Moulton Horman took her first polygraph just days
after Kyron’s disappearance. At a press conference Thursday evening,
Kaine Horman and Kyron’s biological mother, Desiree Young,
emphasized what had previously been reported — that Terri Moulton
Horman had failed two polygraph tests.
But in his WW interview, Kaine Horman revealed what hasn’t
been made public — that Kyron’s stepmom walked out of a third test.
Kaine Horman told WW the family emphasized the polygraph
results in an effort to pressure Terri Moulton Horman to cooperate with
law enforcement. Kaine Horman filed for divorce and a restraining order June 28. In court records, he
said he believes she was involved in Kyron’s disappearance and in an
alleged plot to have Kaine Horman killed.
“She’s been really vocal, her friends have been really vocal, about
all these polygraphs she’s taking,” Kaine Horman told WW.
“Well, they haven’t been forthcoming about the results of those tests.”
He said the first time Terri Moulton Horman took a polygraph she was
“very vocal” among friends and family that she’d failed. Kaine Horman
says she made excuses, and he gave her the benefit of the doubt. He
declined to say what questions allegedly tripped her up.
Several days later, he says, she agreed to take a second polygraph
but walked out before the questions began. Around 10 days later, she
finally agreed to sit down again for a lie detector. Once again, he
says, she failed.
Kaine Horman says those failures were the most significant evidence
driving him toward the belief that his wife was involved in Kyron’s
disappearance.
“The first red flag is failed test. Second red flag is walking out in
the middle of the second one. And the third red flag is, I’m going to
fight law enforcement as long as I possibly can to absolutely refuse to
take a polygraph,” he said. “After 10 days, she finally breaks down,
goes, takes another one, and she fails.”
Kaine Horman said the realization has left him torn. He said he never
previously saw anything seriously amiss with his wife or his family.
“There’s a lot of guilt. There’s a lot of betrayal. There’s a lot of
many different emotions,” he said. “The problem right now is that
Kyron’s not here, and I don’t have time to sort through those right now,
because we need to find him first.”
Listen to an audio clip of Kaine Horman discussing the polygraphs here
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
I know it's nuts trying to apply logic to peoples actions when they commit a horrible crime, but it seems that TH has wanted to do something for quite a long time. She had been planning all sorts of drastic action. We know that she allegedly tried to hire someone to kill Kaine. Maybe Kyron was supposed to be a victim then too but LE have requested that part of it not be disclosed. The house is under Kaines name solely. If TH wanted out of the marriage, or knew it wasn't going to last maybe money was the motive. She may have wanted to ensure she got the house. Kyron would have inherited at least half, or even all of it so perhaps she was trying to get rid of them both in a staged accident back in December. If she couldn't find anyone to carry it out for her perhaps she has been hatching a plan for the last 6 months where she kills Kyron but makes it look as though he was abducted from school. The next step in her plan may have been to give Kaine an overdose or something to make it look like suicide by the distraught father. Whichever way I look at it unfortunately I can't come up with a scenario where Kyron is alive despite optimism by the family and all over the boards. We have someone who was prepared to kill + a child missing = not alive. Obviously LE have to continue on the basis that he is alive until proof he isn't, but unfortunately that means that we don't have resources out there trying to find his remains which makes it less likely they will be found. It's a harsh reality but while Kyron is classified missing/endangered no funds will be provided to search for his body and unless they have a car trunk that smells like there's been a dead body in it that's the way it will remain. It's beyond frustrating.
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Investigators have collected surveillance videos from local grocery
stores in the disappearance of Kyron Horman, sources said.
The corporate offices of Fred Meyer and Albertsons both confirmed Friday they are cooperating with investigators in the case.
Officials with Albertsons said they’ve turned over surveillance video
from their store on Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway on June 4, the day the
Skyline School second-grader disappeared.
Fred Meyer officials, however, will only say they are working with
detectives regarding at least one store. They said if they turned over
surveillance video, it would be up to investigators to disclose it to
the media; however, sources said that the Sunset Fred Meyer off Highway
26 in Hillsboro has submitted video for investigators to review.
That store is five miles from Skyline School. The Albertons, depending
on the route taken, is anywhere from 14 to 16 miles from the school.Investigators are trying to establish Terri Horman’s timeline, sources
said. They say Terri was the last person to see Kyron and they are
trying to find out what she did after she dropped him off at the school.
There is no indication that Kyron is in any of the video.
Former Multnomah County prosecutor Jim McIntyre said an arrest in this
case has not been made because, “You have to be able to identify
specifically what crime you’re going to charge. You can’t simply say,
‘you’re under arrest because everyone thinks you did something.’ I mean,
you have to have evidence, more likely than not, that you committed a
specific crime.”
He pointed out that without knowing what happened to Kyron, it is
difficult to arrest someone and charge them based on circumstantial
evidence alone.
He also said there’s a big difference between missing children and
missing adults in pressing ahead with charges that are based on
circumstantial evidence.
Adults leave paper trails that children don’t. They buy things at
grocery stores with credit cards, use ATMs, write e-mails and make phone
calls. Those are the kinds of things that stop when adults disappear.
But a 7-year-old doesn’t leave those kinds of digital footprints.
“So when you have a child that goes missing, it becomes extremely more
complicated in trying to establish whether that child is missing or
whether that child is deceased,” said McIntyre. “If you don’t know those
two answers then how do you identify which crime to charge?”
As to making an arrest in a murder-for-hire plot, McIntyre said that
type of case is one of the hardest to prove unless the suspect or
suspects confess or implicate themselves in the crime.
Police have not named Terri Horman as a suspect in the disappearance of
Kyron and they haven’t made any arrests in the case.
stores in the disappearance of Kyron Horman, sources said.
The corporate offices of Fred Meyer and Albertsons both confirmed Friday they are cooperating with investigators in the case.
Officials with Albertsons said they’ve turned over surveillance video
from their store on Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway on June 4, the day the
Skyline School second-grader disappeared.
Fred Meyer officials, however, will only say they are working with
detectives regarding at least one store. They said if they turned over
surveillance video, it would be up to investigators to disclose it to
the media; however, sources said that the Sunset Fred Meyer off Highway
26 in Hillsboro has submitted video for investigators to review.
That store is five miles from Skyline School. The Albertons, depending
on the route taken, is anywhere from 14 to 16 miles from the school.Investigators are trying to establish Terri Horman’s timeline, sources
said. They say Terri was the last person to see Kyron and they are
trying to find out what she did after she dropped him off at the school.
There is no indication that Kyron is in any of the video.
Former Multnomah County prosecutor Jim McIntyre said an arrest in this
case has not been made because, “You have to be able to identify
specifically what crime you’re going to charge. You can’t simply say,
‘you’re under arrest because everyone thinks you did something.’ I mean,
you have to have evidence, more likely than not, that you committed a
specific crime.”
He pointed out that without knowing what happened to Kyron, it is
difficult to arrest someone and charge them based on circumstantial
evidence alone.
He also said there’s a big difference between missing children and
missing adults in pressing ahead with charges that are based on
circumstantial evidence.
Adults leave paper trails that children don’t. They buy things at
grocery stores with credit cards, use ATMs, write e-mails and make phone
calls. Those are the kinds of things that stop when adults disappear.
But a 7-year-old doesn’t leave those kinds of digital footprints.
“So when you have a child that goes missing, it becomes extremely more
complicated in trying to establish whether that child is missing or
whether that child is deceased,” said McIntyre. “If you don’t know those
two answers then how do you identify which crime to charge?”
As to making an arrest in a murder-for-hire plot, McIntyre said that
type of case is one of the hardest to prove unless the suspect or
suspects confess or implicate themselves in the crime.
Police have not named Terri Horman as a suspect in the disappearance of
Kyron and they haven’t made any arrests in the case.
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Multnomah County District Attorney Michael Schrunk and Sheriff Dan
Staton will ask the county board of commissioners for additional money
to help support the ongoing investigation into the June 4 disappearance
of 7-year-old Kyron Horman.
The costs to the Multnomah County
Sheriff's Office total about $350,000 so far since Kyron was reported
missing, Staton said.
The district attorney's office has spent about $50,000 so far on the
case, representing about 830 hours of work involving
six prosecutors and three investigators.
"We're going to do whatever is necessary to get this thing wrapped up,
but it's not without costs to other parts of the office," Schrunk said
Friday. "It's an extraordinary case, and unless lightning strikes, were
going to be in for a long haul."
Six prosecutors, from chief
deputy district attorneys Rod Underhill and Norm Frink to trial-level
prosecutors Kevin Demer and Heidi Moawad, as well as three investigators
who operate out of the district attorney's office have worked on the
case. Moawad and Demer were brought in to do computer analysis, and
Charlene Woods, a senior deputy district attorney who handles child
abuse cases, also assisted.
"We took some hits at the budget
time, and I've got some flexibility to move the deck chairs around, so
we've been trying to do that," Schrunk said. "But what that does is it
pulls away others from other cases."
The district attorney said
he plans to keep seasoned prosecutors and investigators on the case, but
needs to backfill their jobs to continue to prosecute other cases. "We
have assigned many of our senior people to the case as well as three
investigators who are doing necessary follow-up work," Schrunk wrote, in
a July 7 letter to the sheriff, seeking his support to ask the board
for additional resources.
Schrunk will request hiring a deputy
district attorney and an investigator for his office for the rest of
this fiscal year.
County figures show that from June 4 through
June 23, the district attorney's office put in 501 hours of work,
costing $29.537.74. From June 23 through June 30, the district
attorney's office put in 328 hours, costing $16,191.59.
The
$350,000 cost to the sheriff's office, which has dedicated all but one
of its seven detectives to the missing child case, does not include the
costs to the other police agencies around the area.
Staton plans
to ask for money to cover the overtime costs of two or three
detectives, some of whom are working 14 to 16 hours a day on the case.
He expects to have a firm dollar amount next week. He said he and his
finance director are putting together the agency's request for
additional funding to cover costs until "we get a resolution" in the
case.
With the search for Kyron now five-weeks old, the sheriff
remained adamant that the operation merits the time, effort and expense.
"When you have something that's unique like this, you just
don't put a time frame on it," he said. "If we started attaching dollar
figures to it or the amount of time and effort that's put into it, we're
starting to go down a path where we're putting a dollar value on our
children or on the most vulnerable people we have in our community. And I
won't do that."
His office also is trying to identify ways to
free up funds internally, he said.
Staton said he anticipates
tapping the expertise of retired detectives who now volunteer on the
agency's cold cases, although he stressed that the Kyron Horman
investigation is not a cold case.
The case is one of the biggest
investigations ever for the county -- and the state -- he said, and the
2011 budget, with $100 million in general-fund revenue, was not
designed to handle such an unanticipated and unique case.
But
the county must continue to pursue this case, he said.
"A child
came up missing from inside the school," he said. "That just doesn't
happen. From my standpoint, it's something that shouldn't be accepted.
We should know and the community should know what it is that we will do
-- and to what extent we will go -- to protect our children."
Staton will ask the county board of commissioners for additional money
to help support the ongoing investigation into the June 4 disappearance
of 7-year-old Kyron Horman.
The costs to the Multnomah County
Sheriff's Office total about $350,000 so far since Kyron was reported
missing, Staton said.
The district attorney's office has spent about $50,000 so far on the
case, representing about 830 hours of work involving
six prosecutors and three investigators.
"We're going to do whatever is necessary to get this thing wrapped up,
but it's not without costs to other parts of the office," Schrunk said
Friday. "It's an extraordinary case, and unless lightning strikes, were
going to be in for a long haul."
Six prosecutors, from chief
deputy district attorneys Rod Underhill and Norm Frink to trial-level
prosecutors Kevin Demer and Heidi Moawad, as well as three investigators
who operate out of the district attorney's office have worked on the
case. Moawad and Demer were brought in to do computer analysis, and
Charlene Woods, a senior deputy district attorney who handles child
abuse cases, also assisted.
"We took some hits at the budget
time, and I've got some flexibility to move the deck chairs around, so
we've been trying to do that," Schrunk said. "But what that does is it
pulls away others from other cases."
The district attorney said
he plans to keep seasoned prosecutors and investigators on the case, but
needs to backfill their jobs to continue to prosecute other cases. "We
have assigned many of our senior people to the case as well as three
investigators who are doing necessary follow-up work," Schrunk wrote, in
a July 7 letter to the sheriff, seeking his support to ask the board
for additional resources.
Schrunk will request hiring a deputy
district attorney and an investigator for his office for the rest of
this fiscal year.
County figures show that from June 4 through
June 23, the district attorney's office put in 501 hours of work,
costing $29.537.74. From June 23 through June 30, the district
attorney's office put in 328 hours, costing $16,191.59.
The
$350,000 cost to the sheriff's office, which has dedicated all but one
of its seven detectives to the missing child case, does not include the
costs to the other police agencies around the area.
Staton plans
to ask for money to cover the overtime costs of two or three
detectives, some of whom are working 14 to 16 hours a day on the case.
He expects to have a firm dollar amount next week. He said he and his
finance director are putting together the agency's request for
additional funding to cover costs until "we get a resolution" in the
case.
With the search for Kyron now five-weeks old, the sheriff
remained adamant that the operation merits the time, effort and expense.
"When you have something that's unique like this, you just
don't put a time frame on it," he said. "If we started attaching dollar
figures to it or the amount of time and effort that's put into it, we're
starting to go down a path where we're putting a dollar value on our
children or on the most vulnerable people we have in our community. And I
won't do that."
His office also is trying to identify ways to
free up funds internally, he said.
Staton said he anticipates
tapping the expertise of retired detectives who now volunteer on the
agency's cold cases, although he stressed that the Kyron Horman
investigation is not a cold case.
The case is one of the biggest
investigations ever for the county -- and the state -- he said, and the
2011 budget, with $100 million in general-fund revenue, was not
designed to handle such an unanticipated and unique case.
But
the county must continue to pursue this case, he said.
"A child
came up missing from inside the school," he said. "That just doesn't
happen. From my standpoint, it's something that shouldn't be accepted.
We should know and the community should know what it is that we will do
-- and to what extent we will go -- to protect our children."
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Terri Horman refuses to answer reporter’s questions
By Dan Tilkin KATU News
Story Published: Jul 9, 2010 at 5:18 PM PDT
Story Updated: Jul 10, 2010 at 12:24 AM PDT
KATU News reporter Dan Tilkin attempted to ask Kyron’s stepmother, Terri Horman, on Friday about her polygraph tests and if she knows where Kyron is. Terri refused to answer questions.
Her husband, Kaine, has accused her in a murder-for-hire plot. He and Kyron's mother, Desiree Young, revealed on Thursday Terri failed two lie detector tests.
They both said they believe Terri Horman knows something about Kyron's disappearance, and they say she's not cooperating with investigators.
KATU News has tried phone calls and e-mails with no success and on Friday Tilkin attempted to speak to her in a parking garage to get her side of the story.
To watch Tilkin’s attempt to ask Terri questions, please click on the above video tab or here.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98146889.html
By Dan Tilkin KATU News
Story Published: Jul 9, 2010 at 5:18 PM PDT
Story Updated: Jul 10, 2010 at 12:24 AM PDT
KATU News reporter Dan Tilkin attempted to ask Kyron’s stepmother, Terri Horman, on Friday about her polygraph tests and if she knows where Kyron is. Terri refused to answer questions.
Her husband, Kaine, has accused her in a murder-for-hire plot. He and Kyron's mother, Desiree Young, revealed on Thursday Terri failed two lie detector tests.
They both said they believe Terri Horman knows something about Kyron's disappearance, and they say she's not cooperating with investigators.
KATU News has tried phone calls and e-mails with no success and on Friday Tilkin attempted to speak to her in a parking garage to get her side of the story.
To watch Tilkin’s attempt to ask Terri questions, please click on the above video tab or here.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98146889.html
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Deputies Remain Mum As Questions Mount
The tight-lipped nature of the investigation focused on finding 7-year-old Kyron Horman, now in its fifth week, has frustrated some members of the community.
VIDEO REPORT: http://www.kptv.com/video/24205086/index.html
The tight-lipped nature of the investigation focused on finding 7-year-old Kyron Horman, now in its fifth week, has frustrated some members of the community.
VIDEO REPORT: http://www.kptv.com/video/24205086/index.html
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Officials Mum As Questions Mount About Kyron Case
POSTED: 6:28 pm PDT July 9, 2010
UPDATED: 8:04 pm PDT July 9, 2010
PORTLAND, Ore. -- The tight-lipped nature of the investigation focused on finding 7-year-old Kyron Horman, now entering its fifth week, has frustrated some members of the community.
Kyron vanished from his northwest Portland grade school June 4 and, since then, Multnomah County deputies haven't announced any arrests, persons of interest or evidence.
However, Kyron's parents expressed their ongoing trust in investigators even as they shared their suspicions about the involvement of the missing boy's stepmother, Terri Horman.
"Honestly, I think the police are doing whatever they can to make Kyron the priority," said Desiree Young, Kyron's biological mother, during a news conference Thursday.
But many questions remain unanswered.
"I mean, where is he? Is he OK? Can he come home? What's going on with him? There's a story behind this. There's a big story," said Jodie Paulson, who is staying in Portland.
During the first three weeks of the investigation, Capt. Jason Gates was a familiar sight in front of TV cameras. Sheriff Dan Staton also pledged his dedication to finding the missing second-grader.
But, in the last two weeks, authorities have seemingly pulled back.
FOX 12 put in several requests for an interview with Staton and asked for a copy of his schedule, but he has not made himself available.
Spokeswoman Lt. Mary Lindstrand said the sheriff is no longer allowing deputies to make a comment until there is a break in the case.
Deputies also did not comment after a restraining order filed by Kaine Horman against Terri Horman was unsealed. The court documents stated Kaine Horman believed his wife was involved in Kyron's disappearance and that she tried to hire someone to kill him.
He wrote that the police gave him "probable cause to believe" the claims behind the restraining order.
A woman, who wished to only be identified as Elizabeth, said she hopes for closure in the case.
"There's probably stuff going on that we shouldn't know about because they're trying to keep this together so they don't lose the case. But, on the same token, I'd like to know for the sake of this child," she said.
http://www.kptv.com/news/24205145/detail.html
POSTED: 6:28 pm PDT July 9, 2010
UPDATED: 8:04 pm PDT July 9, 2010
PORTLAND, Ore. -- The tight-lipped nature of the investigation focused on finding 7-year-old Kyron Horman, now entering its fifth week, has frustrated some members of the community.
Kyron vanished from his northwest Portland grade school June 4 and, since then, Multnomah County deputies haven't announced any arrests, persons of interest or evidence.
However, Kyron's parents expressed their ongoing trust in investigators even as they shared their suspicions about the involvement of the missing boy's stepmother, Terri Horman.
"Honestly, I think the police are doing whatever they can to make Kyron the priority," said Desiree Young, Kyron's biological mother, during a news conference Thursday.
But many questions remain unanswered.
"I mean, where is he? Is he OK? Can he come home? What's going on with him? There's a story behind this. There's a big story," said Jodie Paulson, who is staying in Portland.
During the first three weeks of the investigation, Capt. Jason Gates was a familiar sight in front of TV cameras. Sheriff Dan Staton also pledged his dedication to finding the missing second-grader.
But, in the last two weeks, authorities have seemingly pulled back.
FOX 12 put in several requests for an interview with Staton and asked for a copy of his schedule, but he has not made himself available.
Spokeswoman Lt. Mary Lindstrand said the sheriff is no longer allowing deputies to make a comment until there is a break in the case.
Deputies also did not comment after a restraining order filed by Kaine Horman against Terri Horman was unsealed. The court documents stated Kaine Horman believed his wife was involved in Kyron's disappearance and that she tried to hire someone to kill him.
He wrote that the police gave him "probable cause to believe" the claims behind the restraining order.
A woman, who wished to only be identified as Elizabeth, said she hopes for closure in the case.
"There's probably stuff going on that we shouldn't know about because they're trying to keep this together so they don't lose the case. But, on the same token, I'd like to know for the sake of this child," she said.
http://www.kptv.com/news/24205145/detail.html
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Candlelight vigil held for missing Oregon boy
By Associated Press Saturday, July 10, 2010 - Updated 41m ago
PORTLAND, Ore. — More than 200 people turned out for a candlelight vigil for a missing 7-year-old Portland boy.
Kyron Horman’s parents Kaine Horman and Desiree Young were among the participants Friday night at Skyline School.
Those at the vigil prayed, sang, lit candles and wrote notes on the Wall of Hope for Kyron.
He was last seen at the school by his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, June 4.
Investigators have not named her as a person of interest, but in recent weeks they have focused their investigation on her.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/west/view.bg?articleid=1267024&srvc=rss
By Associated Press Saturday, July 10, 2010 - Updated 41m ago
PORTLAND, Ore. — More than 200 people turned out for a candlelight vigil for a missing 7-year-old Portland boy.
Kyron Horman’s parents Kaine Horman and Desiree Young were among the participants Friday night at Skyline School.
Those at the vigil prayed, sang, lit candles and wrote notes on the Wall of Hope for Kyron.
He was last seen at the school by his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, June 4.
Investigators have not named her as a person of interest, but in recent weeks they have focused their investigation on her.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/west/view.bg?articleid=1267024&srvc=rss
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Statement Analysis
Saturday, July 10, 2010
Still...No Arrest in Kyron Disappearance
Excerpt:
Still no arrest in spite of the "probable cause" used in obtaining an emergency Protection Order by Kaine Horman.
We have two quotes to look at:
"Honestly, my motherly instinct kicked in, and I said that she better not have done
anything to my son," Young said. "I just didn't feel right about the conversation.
It didn't strike me right."
We are acutely aware of the context and will say that the use of "honestly" raises a red flag. Why the need to add "honestly" to the statement?
Remember,words are chosen in less than a micro second and the use here is sensitive.
READ MORE: http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/stillno-arrest-in-kyron-disappearance.html
Saturday, July 10, 2010
Still...No Arrest in Kyron Disappearance
Excerpt:
Still no arrest in spite of the "probable cause" used in obtaining an emergency Protection Order by Kaine Horman.
We have two quotes to look at:
"Honestly, my motherly instinct kicked in, and I said that she better not have done
anything to my son," Young said. "I just didn't feel right about the conversation.
It didn't strike me right."
We are acutely aware of the context and will say that the use of "honestly" raises a red flag. Why the need to add "honestly" to the statement?
Remember,words are chosen in less than a micro second and the use here is sensitive.
READ MORE: http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/stillno-arrest-in-kyron-disappearance.html
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
mom_in_il wrote:Statement Analysis
Saturday, July 10, 2010
Still...No Arrest in Kyron Disappearance
Excerpt:
Still no arrest in spite of the "probable cause" used in obtaining an emergency Protection Order by Kaine Horman.
We have two quotes to look at:
"Honestly, my motherly instinct kicked in, and I said that she better not have done
anything to my son," Young said. "I just didn't feel right about the conversation.
It didn't strike me right."
We are acutely aware of the context and will say that the use of "honestly" raises a red flag. Why the need to add "honestly" to the statement?
Remember,words are chosen in less than a micro second and the use here is sensitive.
READ MORE: http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/stillno-arrest-in-kyron-disappearance.html
If they really want to know where/what happened to Kyron, let Desiree at Terri. Trust me, momma bear missing her son would get some answers and Terri would get the ass kicking she so deserves. LE isn't cutting it so, it's time ma/pa got the answers out of that psycho beotch.
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
put in wrong thread.
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
MominIl thanks for all of this current information....baffling case
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Kyron’s Parents Describe Web of Deception from Stepmom (With Audio)
For Desiree Young, it came down to the hair.
Shortly after her son, Kyron Horman, disappeared
June 4, most of the missing 7-year-old’s family was in shock. There was
one notable exception, Young says — Kyron’s stepmom, Terri
Moulton Horman.
“She’s talking about her hair that she just got done, and they put
highlights in, it turned out a little too orange,” Young recalled in a
tape-recorded interview with WW Thursday evening. “I can’t get
up every morning, put on my makeup or function even remotely normally,
and she’s talking about going and getting her hair done.”
Terri Horman’s attorney, Stephen Houze, has told
reporters neither he nor his client will comment on the case.
Young says she suspected Terri Horman may have been involved in
Kyron’s disappearance from the moment the stepmom called her to tell her
the boy was missing. And Horman’s behavior after the disappearance
heightened those suspicions.
“Every single day, we’d wake up, we’d gather up, and we’d just go and
start doing stuff (to help find Kyron). And she was always just kind of
behind,” says Kyron’s father Kaine Horman, who also
sat for the WW interview. “It wasn’t about, ‘what can we do?’ It’s
about, ‘what’s being done to me, or what about me?’ It was just kind of
more centered around her.”
Kaine Horman filed for divorce and a restraining order against Terri Horman on June 28,
saying in court documents he believes she’s behind Kyron’s disappearance
and an alleged plot to have Kaine Horman killed. He says she also
failed two polygraphs and walked out of a third.
Kaine Horman says it was only after Kyron disappeared that he learned
the extent of his marital problems. He says he found out Terri Horman
had been complaining to friends behind his back for months about their
marriage. But he says she rarely expressed those feelings to him.
“She would basically just internalize it and go to somebody else and
go, ‘hey, here’s how I feel, our marriage is having problems,’ and just
vent to other people, having this victim mentality of, I want you to see
it my way, I want you to side with me,” Kaine Horman says. “But she
didn’t ever talk to me about it.”
He also told WW Terri Horman suffered post-partum depression after the birth of
their daughter 19 months ago and may have been hiding her condition.
Young and Horman say the full extent of Terri Horman’s deceptions
wasn’t clear until after Kyron disappeared, when they and investigators
began piecing the picture together in conversations with friends and
acquaintances.
But Kaine Horman says he didn’t fully believe his wife could be
behind Kyron’s disappearance until he learned about the alleged
murder-for-hire plot. The Oregonian has reported Terri Horman
offered to pay a landscaper to kill her husband six or seven months ago.
“I have no idea what she’s capable of, because she’s obviously done
some horrible things or tried to do some horrible things that took us
all by surprise,” Kaine Horman said.
Young says Terri Horman was a frequent liar about matters large and
small.
“She can’t even tell the truth about her divorce or, you know, how
she met Kaine, any of that,” Young says. “Silly little things. Stories
about Kyron getting stung by a bee she can’t even tell the truth about.”
She says she suspects Terri Horman was untruthful in the first phone
call to Young the day Kyron disappeared.
“Sometimes a mother’s instinct can be pretty accurate, but at the
same time, (my suspicion) was factual-based,” she says. “I can’t give
you details, but some of what she was saying didn’t match up with me.
I’m familiar with the school, and I know how the school’s set up, and
some of what she’s saying doesn’t make sense to me.”
Click here
for an audio clip of Kaine Horman and Desiree Young discussing Terri
Horman’s behavior after Kyron’s disappearance.http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/10/kyrons-parents-describe-web-of-deception-from-stepmom/
For Desiree Young, it came down to the hair.
Shortly after her son, Kyron Horman, disappeared
June 4, most of the missing 7-year-old’s family was in shock. There was
one notable exception, Young says — Kyron’s stepmom, Terri
Moulton Horman.
“She’s talking about her hair that she just got done, and they put
highlights in, it turned out a little too orange,” Young recalled in a
tape-recorded interview with WW Thursday evening. “I can’t get
up every morning, put on my makeup or function even remotely normally,
and she’s talking about going and getting her hair done.”
Terri Horman’s attorney, Stephen Houze, has told
reporters neither he nor his client will comment on the case.
Young says she suspected Terri Horman may have been involved in
Kyron’s disappearance from the moment the stepmom called her to tell her
the boy was missing. And Horman’s behavior after the disappearance
heightened those suspicions.
“Every single day, we’d wake up, we’d gather up, and we’d just go and
start doing stuff (to help find Kyron). And she was always just kind of
behind,” says Kyron’s father Kaine Horman, who also
sat for the WW interview. “It wasn’t about, ‘what can we do?’ It’s
about, ‘what’s being done to me, or what about me?’ It was just kind of
more centered around her.”
Kaine Horman filed for divorce and a restraining order against Terri Horman on June 28,
saying in court documents he believes she’s behind Kyron’s disappearance
and an alleged plot to have Kaine Horman killed. He says she also
failed two polygraphs and walked out of a third.
Kaine Horman says it was only after Kyron disappeared that he learned
the extent of his marital problems. He says he found out Terri Horman
had been complaining to friends behind his back for months about their
marriage. But he says she rarely expressed those feelings to him.
“She would basically just internalize it and go to somebody else and
go, ‘hey, here’s how I feel, our marriage is having problems,’ and just
vent to other people, having this victim mentality of, I want you to see
it my way, I want you to side with me,” Kaine Horman says. “But she
didn’t ever talk to me about it.”
He also told WW Terri Horman suffered post-partum depression after the birth of
their daughter 19 months ago and may have been hiding her condition.
Young and Horman say the full extent of Terri Horman’s deceptions
wasn’t clear until after Kyron disappeared, when they and investigators
began piecing the picture together in conversations with friends and
acquaintances.
But Kaine Horman says he didn’t fully believe his wife could be
behind Kyron’s disappearance until he learned about the alleged
murder-for-hire plot. The Oregonian has reported Terri Horman
offered to pay a landscaper to kill her husband six or seven months ago.
“I have no idea what she’s capable of, because she’s obviously done
some horrible things or tried to do some horrible things that took us
all by surprise,” Kaine Horman said.
Young says Terri Horman was a frequent liar about matters large and
small.
“She can’t even tell the truth about her divorce or, you know, how
she met Kaine, any of that,” Young says. “Silly little things. Stories
about Kyron getting stung by a bee she can’t even tell the truth about.”
She says she suspects Terri Horman was untruthful in the first phone
call to Young the day Kyron disappeared.
“Sometimes a mother’s instinct can be pretty accurate, but at the
same time, (my suspicion) was factual-based,” she says. “I can’t give
you details, but some of what she was saying didn’t match up with me.
I’m familiar with the school, and I know how the school’s set up, and
some of what she’s saying doesn’t make sense to me.”
Click here
for an audio clip of Kaine Horman and Desiree Young discussing Terri
Horman’s behavior after Kyron’s disappearance.http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/10/kyrons-parents-describe-web-of-deception-from-stepmom/
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
http://media.wweek.com/attach/2010/07/09/hair.mp3
Audio interview
Audio interview
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Re: KYRON HORMAN - 7 yo - Portland OR
Thank you, Karma.
I know the family is holding out hope, but I am sure that Kyron is no longer with us. This isn't a Jaycee Dugard situation. I will go to my grave believing Terri did something to this poor child, and now she is repressing and suppressing. It's her MO.
I was reading about Darlie Router, who to this day maintains her innocence...and I firmly believe it's because so many people (her family) rallied around her....unlike and Susan Smith - who had none of that kind of support...cracked almost immediately. I've noticed that those who confess have no family and friends being their cheerleaders, or stepping up to the plate saying, "Yeah, she was really selfish and self-absorbed, she is capable of this." Just sayin'....
It's just like Casey. If only Cindy, George and Lee would have said, "Sure, she is the kind of person that would do this," I think Casey would've confessed a long time ago, just to win their love and approval. (In Casey's mind). Same with Terri. Too late now, though. Too many people have gathered 'round in support of Terri. She won't confess at this point. She is getting a huge payoff by not confessing, more than she would for telling what she did. Remove all that love and support for her and watch the tables turn. That's my opinion. Humbly. And, um...psychologically. Dare I say it? ;-)
There's nothing Desiree or Kaine can say at this point to make Terri tell what she did. Terri is getting tons of support from family and friends of family, so as long as that payoff is there, of people that believe her, she will never confess. (Just like Darlie, even though the evidence was overwhelming) And as long as they don't have Kyron...well...I don't even want to go there. I will say this, though. The truth always comes out. Always.
I know the family is holding out hope, but I am sure that Kyron is no longer with us. This isn't a Jaycee Dugard situation. I will go to my grave believing Terri did something to this poor child, and now she is repressing and suppressing. It's her MO.
I was reading about Darlie Router, who to this day maintains her innocence...and I firmly believe it's because so many people (her family) rallied around her....unlike and Susan Smith - who had none of that kind of support...cracked almost immediately. I've noticed that those who confess have no family and friends being their cheerleaders, or stepping up to the plate saying, "Yeah, she was really selfish and self-absorbed, she is capable of this." Just sayin'....
It's just like Casey. If only Cindy, George and Lee would have said, "Sure, she is the kind of person that would do this," I think Casey would've confessed a long time ago, just to win their love and approval. (In Casey's mind). Same with Terri. Too late now, though. Too many people have gathered 'round in support of Terri. She won't confess at this point. She is getting a huge payoff by not confessing, more than she would for telling what she did. Remove all that love and support for her and watch the tables turn. That's my opinion. Humbly. And, um...psychologically. Dare I say it? ;-)
There's nothing Desiree or Kaine can say at this point to make Terri tell what she did. Terri is getting tons of support from family and friends of family, so as long as that payoff is there, of people that believe her, she will never confess. (Just like Darlie, even though the evidence was overwhelming) And as long as they don't have Kyron...well...I don't even want to go there. I will say this, though. The truth always comes out. Always.
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